Talk:Winning isn't everything; it's the only thing
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Should this perhaps be renamed to the version without the quotes? They're not in the article body, so why should they be in the title? - Taxman Talk 17:15, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
The article is incorrect. Lombardi never actually used the phrase. 68.192.108.27 17:12, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] You're right
Your right about lombardi never saying that. Goaliemaster121 01:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] American Dialect Society ADS-L
A search of the American Dialect Society ADS-L list post 1999 has some citations from the Los Angeles Times on Red Sanders' usage, as well as a book.[1]
"ART ROSENBAUM. Los Angeles Times (1886-Current File). Los Angeles, Calif.: Oct 18, 1950. p. C3 (1 page): Here's one on Red Sanders, as told by himself this summer at Cal Poly (San Luis Obispo) physical education workshop. Speaking about football victories, Sanders told his group: "Men, I'll be honest. Winning isn't everything. (Long pause.) Men, it's the only thing!" (Laughter.) "
David Maraniss' book on V. Lombardi, _When Pride Still Mattered_, p. 369: "As to the famous phrase, Shavelson said that it came from his Hollywood agent, who also happened to represent the colorful UCLA football coach Henry "Red" Sanders. "The agent quoted me the line once and said that he had heard Sanders say it," Shavelson recalled. "That's how it got in the script."
Red Sanders is also quoted in the December 26, 1955 issue of Sports Illustrated, which was right before the 1956 Rose Bowl in which his UCLA Bruins team participated. I do not have the actual issue, but I understand the quote reads, "Sure, winning isn't everything. It's the only thing." Group29 19:20, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
