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ADinkelacker 16:58, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Dr. Sighard Hoerner is also a pioneer in this field. He published in 1952.

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1 747 assignment
2 Wingtip devices (move)
3 Winglets are not only at an upwards angle
4 Accident
5 Awkward wording
6 Move/example photos
7 Merger of Wingtip Device and Wingtip articles
8 A320 blended winglet testing
9 Image placement
10 History: connection to bird flight?
11 Fair use rationale for Image:MMA.jpg

[edit] 747 assignment

i am doing an assignment at college please can i have some information on the 747-400 i.e. surface area, controls, speeds, and altitudes

I should try Boeing_747#Technical_data for starters. -- Solipsist 09:55, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wingtip devices (move)

I would like to suggest renaming this article to Wingtip device and include raked wingtips and wingtip fences, which are all intended to fulfill the same purpose. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 17:42, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

I think raked wingtip should be merged in here and the result be moved to Wingtip device. Formal CFV. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 18:39, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Winglets are not only at an upwards angle

i will try to find pictures of this as i have seen several aircraft here with winglets going in a downward direction most commonly on small high wing single engine type aircraft like small cessnas

would anyone like to explain what the difference is or if this still counts as a winglet?

No, this will be called a wing fence, and can be found on the A320 series (A318-A321) and MD-11.

DeepSpace 08:36, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

As is now noted in the article, a wingtip fence (which is what you were referring on the A320) is not the same as a wing fence. The MD-11 uses a conventional winglet. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 15:56, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Accident

Please someone link this article to the article of the GOL Accident in Brazil, a frontal colision betwen a 737-800 and a Embraer Legacy that the winglet of one damaged the other aircraft. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.23.96.2 (talk • contribs) 01:58, 7 October 2006.

To be honest I don't think it would be appropriate to link from here to Gol Transportes Aéreos Flight 1907. Whilst it looks like one of the planes lost its winglet in the collision (the pictures are interesting), this disaster doesn't appear to have anything to do with winglets directly. Its really just looks like a mid air collision in which the winglet of one was lost because, but perhaps only because it was on an extremity. If it could be shown that the Boeing plane crashed because the Embraer's wingtip cut through vital systems and this wouldn't have happened if planes didn't have winglets, then there would be a close link - but that seems unlikely. In the meantime a link from mid air collision might be relevant - ah but its already there. -- Solipsist 04:12, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

The winglets decided the collision - the Legacy winglet tore into the 737 wing and the 737 winglet hit the Legacy horizontal stabilizer. The 737 crashed and the Legacy landed. WhisperToMe (talk) 00:34, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Awkward wording

Just noting that it might be best to re-word the second paragraph, as it is sort of awkward in its current form.

[edit] Move/example photos

Obviously, since I have moved/merged the article, much needs to be done. I will do what I can but much needs to be fleshed out. Also, anyone know where we can find a photo of the DC-10 which was used to develop winglets? —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 17:33, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Try the NASA winglet article. Just saw it there the other day. ericg ✈ 10:14, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merger of Wingtip Device and Wingtip articles

There has been a proposal to merge the Wingtip device article with the Wingtip article. Since wing tips are found on all fixed wing aircraft, but wing tip devices are found on very very few of them, the only way I can see of merging these articles is if the Wingtip Device article is made a sub-section of the wingtip article. Otherwise I think that they should be left as two separate articles. Ahunt 14:29, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

This is a falsehood. While wingtip devices are not common on older aircraft, several manufacturers now supply devices on the majority, if not all of their product line. This includes Airbus, Embraer, Bombardier, Boeing, Gulfstream, etc. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 11:30, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A320 blended winglet testing

A few months back, Airbus determined that blended winglets on the jetBlue A320s were a failure. I can't find a press article stating this, though I know I've seen it. Anyone know where to find it? —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 15:52, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image placement

Please leave the image placement alone for a while. I'm working on major content additions, and will be changing the images to follow the text. We can play with the window dressing when the content is stable. Dhaluza 12:28, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

On top it states "MD-11... ...the first mainline airliner to feature the winglets" near the bottom "Boeing 747-400 ...the first mainline airliner to feature the winglets

I removed a comment about problems with the A380 because it was irrelevant in a discussion of the A320 and it wasn't mentioned in the article cited (October 22, 2007). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.20.109.155 (talk) 04:40, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History: connection to bird flight?

Reading this article, I was surprised not to see any connection with bird flight, specifically the slotted wing tips found on the soaring species such as the condor and eagle. Surely they provided some inspiration. --IanOsgood 19:36, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:MMA.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 12:54, 8 March 2008 (UTC)