Talk:Wilmington Insurrection of 1898
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[edit] Stupid Niggers / Half-Witted Marxist College Kids
Should not be permitted to author Wikipedia articles. Some adult out there -- or vaguely educated white person -- should take the time to re-write this butchery of history and place the Wilmington incident in the context of widespread white Southern Resistance to Negro crime and tyranny during Reconstruction.
I was surprised to find that this topic was not covered. I feel that it is important to cover the Wilmington Race Riots with facts and NPOV. I would like to expand the article to include the following sections:
- Context – describe the political and social environment of post reconstruction Wilmington.
- Events – Overview of the rebellion
- Planning – Characterize the planning and development of the rebellion
- Action Events—Describe the events in the days around Nov 11, 1898.
- Banishment—Just as important as the riot day itself is the series of banishments that occurred in the days that followed
- Historical Effect – Describe how the rebellion affects Wilmington and North Carolina.
The external links section has a link to the NC government’s review of the events of the riot. It is a great resource. I am trying to find out if the pictures are copyrighted or not.--Thunder 17:45, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
|I think this would be an excellent addition, and I am looking forward to reading your account. [This site] has some first-person accounts and newspaper articles that might be useful. My understanding of image copyrights is that images published before 1923 are in the public domain, and that scans or other copies of those images do not result in a new copyright, so you should be OK. Lindmere 19:04, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure if it is just a typo or not, but when you were detailing your editing plans, you said the event was Nov 11 when it actually happened on Nov 10.--Denis Diderot II 07:45, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
I have been doing research on this topic for a few months now for a research paper and have almost every one of the top 75 most important sources on the Insurrection. I would like to be the one to expand this article sometime in the next three months, but since this would be my first time doing a major edit I would welcome any help from you guys. Please contact me if you're interested in working together.--Denis Diderot II 07:52, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
"Denis Diderot", I don't see your contact info on your user page, but I'd be interested in helping improve the page. I haven't done research on my own yet, though. I'll put the page on my watch list, anyway. selkins 12:45, 2 March 2007 (ET)
Selkins, I added contact info to my user page. I would love to work on this with you. I own all the major books on the subject, so I can easily get the research. Also, I have a heavily-cited thesis I recently completed, so the referencing is already there.Denis Diderot II 23:38, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Not the only American coup
Dozens of similar incidents took place across the South from 1868 (expulsion of Negroes from the Georgia state legislature) through 1898 (Wilmington insurrection). The hysterical version of this article was written by someone who seems to have no knowledge of American history or the context in which this insurrection occurred; Given that, I'm presuming it was written by either an American college student or some half-witted 80 IQ American Negro. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.254.157.232 (talk) 01:28, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
A similer incident took place in Texas in 1873.--Dudeman5685 04:10, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Can you provide sources, details, context? If so, please indicate that. Awbeal 04:15, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Texas "coup"
From what I read here, I would not characterize the Texas event as a coup d'etat or overthrow. In that case, it was a legal question of whether the incumbent governor's term was over and the election valid. He (Edmund J. Davis) thought his term should continue. Democrats, meanwhile, did not. Davis resigned under pressure, after Richard Coke was inaugurated. But that doesn't quite fit the definition of a coup.
Meanwhile, you haven't given any information about the events in Kentucky in the 1890s for anyone to judge. Please provide more information. Awbeal 20:48, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
I completely agree that the Texas incident was a not a coup d'etat at all. I think that anyone who is going to change facts on a page should be pretty sure that they are right before they do, which it seems this editor was not. Additionally, the Kentucky thing that is mentioned should never have been added if the reference to it did not contain a more pertinent link than the page for the state of Kentucky. If there was no page, then a link should have been created requesting one.--Denis Diderot II 07:38, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Kentucky v. Tennessee "Rebellion"
I don't want to put words in a person's mouth, but I think maybe the Kentucky rebellion being referred to is actually the Battle of Athens in McMinn County, Tennessee. However, even if this is the armed rebellion in question, I don't believe it qualifies as a coup d'etat as the government being overthrown was brought to power through fraud and thus not lawfully elected.[1] However, I will note that while my belief is that the common usage of coup d'etat is the deposing of a lawful government, Merriam-Webster does not make such a distinction.[2] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonnemo (talk • contribs) 16:59, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
I believe, though, that the two can be distinguished, as the Battle of Athens, at it's simplest was counting ballots at gunpoint, the Wilmington insurrection ousted the government between elections.
