Talk:William McMaster Murdoch
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[edit] Titanic (1997 film)
A large part of this article about a man who died fulfilling his duty has been taken up with a minor squabble arising from a baseless decision taken by some scriptwriters nearly 100 years after he died. I have decided to comment out that section dealing with that rather sordid affair. In my opinion, by giving it an unduly prominent position we only perpetuate an unjustified smear.
I know there are alternative points of view, and would not oppose the restoration of that section, although I would view it with sorrow. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 20:55, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
- Indeed the mention of the movie's inaccuracy seems 'prominent', compared to the rest of the article, but this is only because the article itself is small. It should be restored if the article becomes larger.
The portion of the script involving Murdoch shooting a hostile passenger and then shooting himself was based on an eyewitness report from one man (I forget his name). However, this report was unsubstantiated and disputed by many other eyewitnesses. The man who gave the report was said to have been a little eccentric.
) Ten years ago I really liked Titanic '97 warts and all, but now it makes me cringe, especially the disgraceful depiction of First Officer Murdoch as taking bribes and then shooting unarmed passengers before turning the gun on himself. None of the screen portrayls of Mr. Murdoch are accurate or flattering, but Titanic '97 was simply awful.
[edit] Picture of the memorial
I have just uploaded a picture of the memorial on Dalbeattie Town Hall. I dont know if it is worth adding to this artical of not so I shall leave the desision to someone else. Here is the picture.
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—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Delta-NC (talk • contribs) 01:40, 12 March 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Murdoch's helm orders (Titanic)
There are varying accounts and theories as to what Murdoch's orders were just before the Titanic collided with the iceberg, some cited here -[1]. This article fails to cite the controversy and seems to state theories (uncited) as fact. I have moved those sections to talk below and replaced them with more neutral language.
Murdoch was the officer in charge of the bridge when the Titanic collided with an iceberg: Iceberg right ahead before he famously replied: Stop engines, hard a-starboard, full astern, and rang the warning bell.
He gave orders to 'full speed astern' and 'hard a starboard'. Some historians argue that reversing the engines gave a higher chance of hitting the iceberg than reducing the ship's forward motion and slowly turning the ship.
Fountains of Bryn Mawr 05:12, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Titanic Murdoch.jpg
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BetacommandBot (talk) 02:45, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
