Talk:William Lowndes Yancey

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Article milestones Date Process Result January 15, 2008 Good article nominee Listed January 20, 2008 Peer review Reviewed Current Status: Good article

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[edit] FYI

Just in preparation for the GA review, I thought I'd let you know that per WP:MOSQUOTE: "Block quotes are not enclosed in quotation marks (especially including decorative ones such as those provided by the {{cquote}} template, used only for "call-outs", which are generally not appropriate in Wikipedia articles" Thus, you are going to need to switch the current block quotes to either <blockquote> or {{blockquote}} format to comply with the Manual of Style. Good luck, VanTucky ^Talk 18:39, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA Review

GA review (see here for criteria)

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I've begun my review, please contribute if you are able. First impressions are that it will need a little work regarding references, words to avoid and minor copyediting. Also, the introduction should provide more of an overview of the article, in particular the way his views changed over time in response to his circumstances. Finally, a "legacy" section may be useful to sum up the article.haydn_likes_carpet (talk) 08:25, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

   Check words to avoid like "actually", "one thing led to another", "claim", "so-called", "naturally", "second guessed" etc.

   Introduction should provide more of an overview of the article, in particular the way his views changed over time in response to his circumstances. haydn_likes_carpet (talk) 02:31, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   The referencing style is backwards (i.e. references are in the notes section, notes are in the references section). Also, the references are not consistent (some use p42, others pg42). See Wikipedia:References for more info.

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   The third picture uses the deprecated {{PD-LOC}} template. Please fix. All three pictures are captioned "William Lowndes Yancey", which while technically true, is not particularly helpful. A caption of "William Lowndes Yancey in 1861" or "William Lowndes Yancey sketched by Famous McArtist" would be better. Add infobox.

   The new pictures and infobox are awesome, thanks! However, the picture of Edmund Ruffin needs a copyright tag. --haydn_likes_carpet (talk) 02:28, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

   I added a copyright tag. Public domain. -- Wikipedical (talk) 05:27, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   GA on hold. haydn_likes_carpet (talk) 02:31, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

I changed the "p." to "pg." and changed or eliminated the questionable words to the extent I identified them.

Thanks.

You tagged a quote for a source, but the source is included at the end of the paragraph -- a practice that is common and one that I followed throughout the article. If you think it is necessary, I can add an additional footnote within the paragraph.

No problems - I've removed the {{Fact}} tag.

If I understand you correctly, you are saying that the footnotes should be in the "references" section and the bibliography should be in the "notes" section? If that's what you're saying, I believe you are wrong -- otherwise I don't understand what you are saying.

Given that today's Featured Article uses the same referencing style I'm giving 2a & 2b a pass.

I agree the lede should be expanded and I will do that in the next day or so. If done right,this should elimiate the need for any additional summary of his life and significance at the end of the article.

Thanks.

I also agree about the captions on the first two pictures and will provide something. As for the third picture, unless someone else knows how to correct it, I will probably just have to eliminate it. I have considered adding pictures (with appropriate captions) of Calhoun, Davis, the Alabama State Capital, and/or possibly Fanueil Hall. Tom (North Shoreman) (talk) 00:45, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Some other pictures would be great - it is a long (and very good!) article in places without any illustration. It would be good to include the first picture in a {{Template:Infobox Officeholder}} as requested by Wikipedia:WikiProject_Biography/Politics_and_government. haydn_likes_carpet (talk) 02:31, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

I added the template. -- Wikipedical (talk) 01:57, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I believe all your suggestions/criteria have been addressed, and thus, take another look. Is it ready to be listed for GA yet? -- Wikipedical (talk) 05:30, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

GA pass. Well done! The sheer size of the references had been bothering me for a while (when you click on one, you just get taken to a page full of "Walther"s.), so I added the {{harvnb}} template which gives a hyperlink down to the book itself. Great work on the pictures too. --haydn_likes_carpet (talk) 00:22, 15 January 2008 (UTC)