Talk:William Dunbar

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[edit] Request for citations

Hi, I have restored the request for a citation on survival of James. You say in your edit-description there is a reference to the Regent Albany in one of Dunbar's poems and I'm grateful for that, but please can you supply this in the article as a reference (which poem and what line(s) and why it works as a reference).

I have similarly added a request for citation that he was in the "post" of laureate. Again it may be my ignorance, but I am not aware that there was a "post" of laureate as such in James's court, or who the "official" holders were, if any. (Dunbar was not the only poet in the court.) Again I am not doubting, it is simply a request.

Please supply the citations rather than remove the requests. Would be grateful. Thank-you. Stitchill (talk) 15:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

PS. On a slightly different topic, I am no fan of the term "Scottish Chaucerian", but equally I am not sure saying Chaucer's influence was "in fact minimal" sounds quite right (especially in Henryson's case, since Henryson definitely responds directly to Chaucer - and the way the sentence is currently written it implies all three poets). I think there is probably a fairer way to put this. It might be helpful to limit the sentence purely to Dunbar's difference from Chaucer and say why. Stitchill (talk) 15:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Subjectivity

"The praise, though it has been at times exaggerated, is on the whole just, certainly in respect of variety of work and mastery of form."

I am rather annoyed by the number of Wiki biographies that presume to pass judgement on the merit of so-and-so's work. Some, like Scott, clearly exalt Dunbar. Others may think he's rubbish. But may I suggest confining one's opinions on the literary merit of a poet('s works) to the pages of a thesis or an article in a journal rather than Wiki entries.

I am taking the liberty to delete that excerpt: if anyone disagrees, feel free to raise why. Gaylegoh (talk) 20:21, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kynd Kittok

It is only on stylistic grounds that Kynd Kittock has been attributed to Dunbar.

[edit] Identification

The Douglas who died in 1522 is perhaps Gavin Douglas? --FinnWiki 01:38, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

And "...Scott's eulogy...", perhaps this Scott is Walter Scott? --FinnWiki 09:17, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Bothwell's mission... Bothwell who? --FinnWiki 12:43, 25 August 2007 (UTC)