Talk:Will it play in Peoria?
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[edit] Coining of the phrase
The article current states this phrase was "widely believed" to be coined by Groucho Marx in the "vaudeville era", which is horribly imprecise. As a first attempt to document a reliable source for this information, I cite this print attribution to John Ehrlichman from 1969:
- Semple, Robert B., Jr.. "Nixon's Inner Circle Meets; The staff is young, well-organized, diverse — and largely from California", The New York Times, August 3, 1969, p. SM6.
- Cited in (2006) "John Ehrlichman", in Fred R. Shapiro, ed.: The Yale Book of Quotations. New Haven, CT: Yale University Press, p. 227. ISBN 978-0-300-10798-2.
This was specifically refuted with some recalled history but no clear origin in:
- Remer, David H.. "Playing In Peoria", The New York Times, November 3, 1985. Retrieved on 2007-05-17.
I suspect Remer's piece is just a letter to the editor (the webpage doesn't make this clear), but it supports the vaudevillian origin. I found plenty of claims that Marx originated the line, but no specific, reliable sources yet, even for the claims themselves. We obviously need much better sources. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 12:08, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
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