Talk:Wild card (sports)

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[edit] Wild card in MLB section

Deletions:

  • "This same scenario was repeated in 2004 when the wild-card Boston Red Sox had home-field advantage over the St. Louis Cardinals, a first-place team, and defeated the Cardinals in four games." (end of paragraph 1)

Not really. The Marlins-Indians controversy was cited as an example of a situation motivating the decision to change the home field advantage rule in 2003, and not just to point out a case in which it may have influenced a victory.

  • "As the 2003 champion, the Florida Marlins, were also a wild card." (end of paragraph 1)

Irrelevant. So were the Angels (2002) and Red Sox (2004) during that period.

Also, in paragraph 2: Not really sure if "seeding" in other sports is analagous to the manner in which contenders are paired in baseball. Left it in there anyway, but feel like the analogy should be deleted.

[edit] Wild card in NBA and NHL sections

Do a Google Search "NBA wild card teams" and "NHL wild card teams". 58.163.152.108 05:54, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-wild-card-playoff-team.htm Non-division winners are allowed into the playoffs in all four major American team sports, but it is not always referred to as a wild card. In the NBA and NHL, there only three division winners and five of what would be considered wild-card playoff teams in each conference, so the term "wild card" is not used. 58.163.152.108 05:54, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Your point? This article does not call teams #4-#8 "wild card"; it states that they walk like a wild card, talk like a wild card, and quack like a wild card.
From the first line of your very own proof (which is not a reliable source): "A wild-card playoff team is a team that is entered into the postseason play of a given sports league despite not winning its own division"...sounds exactly like what I just said. ju66l3r 05:57, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

"Use the discussion page" does not mean continue to vandalize the article while trying to prove your point here. Sprotection requested. ju66l3r 05:59, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

So a team that finishes 4th is considered a wild card? pfft that's bullshit. A team that finishes 4th has as much right to win the Conference Championship than a team that finishes 1st, 2nd, and 3rd does. And besides there's not many hits on Google. It mainly just shows up as Wikipedia referring to the NBA and the NHL having wild cards. 58.163.152.108 06:05, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

No, you refuse to understand what is written. A team finishing #4 (and may have even finished #2 in the conference ahead of 2 other division leaders who get seeded #2 and #3) is the first team to get seeded after the division leaders ... #4. They are accompanied by #5-#8...all of which make the playoffs in the same way as a wild card team. That's why the section informs how much they are like a wild card, even if the term is not used in their league. For that reason, you are wrong on this one and should really understand that removing these sections in whole or throwing citation requests around is not appropriate editing. ju66l3r 06:08, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

The reason that the NBA and the NHL don't use the term "wild card" is simply because there is no wild card teams in the first place!! 58.163.152.108 06:09, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Precisely. That's why I'm glad the article is fine just the way it is. Pnatt, please stop evading your ban and vandalizing wikipedia. Thanks. ju66l3r 06:13, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Well why leave it in the article then? 58.163.152.108 06:16, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

The article is fine. Stop evading your block on your earlier IP and in general your community ban. ju66l3r 06:19, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Broader sense of term

In working on links to the dab page, I noticed that this article doesn't reflect that wild card is used in any sport (and thereby in a number of entries) when you have someone in the tournament who didn't qualify in the normal way. Even the MW definition reflects that: [1]. I suppose that's why the globalize tag is here. So I went ahead and added it in at the beginning. Planetneutral 03:36, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Isn't the North American sporting system the only one using Wild Cards? I don't hear about Wild Cards in Australia, for instance.--Kylohk 07:14, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
    • There's a whole section of the main article that seems to indicate otherwise. Planetneutral talk 22:14, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
  • There appears to be insufficient justification for the CSB tag as you don't cite any examples of a global sport that uses wild cards and is being excluded due to systematic bias. As you noted, a wild card is an individual or team picked to fill a leftover playoff or tournament berth after regularly qualifying competitors have all been determined. Note those global sports which are missing and the tag is justified, otherwise the tag should be removed.Markbyrn 02:28, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Removed globalize tag, agree with the above reasoning by Markbyrn. The article even states that the term is not normally used in this context outside of North American sports. If that's not true, someone please document the uses of the term outside of the US then the article can be updated accordingly. Vrac (talk) 03:35, 21 December 2007 (UTC)