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[edit] Defintion of Tourism

I'm wondering how "WikiProject Tourism" will define its scope and limits. There are big differences between travel and tourism (see definition for Cultural Travel) and the accuracy and depth of travel-related definitions could easily be diluted if they were to be included in a "tourism" project. So what's the plan? Quietleader 06:02, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

I personally think travel is the physical movement from place to place. For example, trains, airlines, and subway stations should be included in travel. However, these are not appropriate topics for tourism, unless there are special circumstances. Tourism is the act of going somewhere or doing something that is not done in the daily routine, or around one's hometown, for the act of leisure or recreational purposes. However, when a conflict arises, the best thing to do would be to leave it as it is for the moment, and bring the issue the WikiProject Tourism talkpage. From there, we can build concensus. If this were to be set, the debates should not be like XfDs in the term of the duration of debates. 2-3 days would be sufficient in most cases. Cool Bluetalk to me 16:24, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Hotels

I'm glad someone has gotten WikiProject Tourism going. Once participation increases, I suggest forming a Hotels work group as there may be sufficient interest.per my proposal. Luke! 03:55, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Good idea. However, I'm going to have to hold off on that until this project stabilizes. If you would like to add it, however, feel free to do so on the project page. Cool Bluetalk to me 16:18, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Definitions earlier

Inordinate amounts of time could be saved making sure all the ways of looking at tourism/travel/pilgrimage etc are defined before almost all else to reduce fly by smart alecs taking pot shot at issues of definition. Specific definitions or inclusions and exclusions should be there on the project page defined straight away SatuSuro 01:55, 12 July 2007 (UTC) Bold textA hotel can only be called a HOTEL if they serve an evening meal if they do not it can only be called an INN, LODGE or HOUSE or something on that line. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.232.48 (talk) 00:13, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sahara Tourism

I just wanted to add that Sahara Tourism is developing as an independant activity, quite different from Safaris and the rest. Thanx Ouadoud

[edit] Collaboration of the Week

To get the ball moving here, I've started Wikipedia:WikiProject Tourism/CotW. Check there for this week's new article. Cool Bluetalk to me 19:22, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Travel guide vs. tourism article

It would help the rest of the community if this project could better define the difference between a "travel guide", which is prohibited, and a "tourism article", which is permitted. For reference, here's some relevant text from WP:NOT#TRAVEL:

  • Wikipedia is not a manual, guidebook, or textbook
  • Travel guides. An article on Paris should mention landmarks such as the Eiffel Tower and the Louvre, but not the telephone number or street address of your favorite hotel or the price of a café au lait on the Champs-Élysées. Wikipedia is not a place to re-create content more suited to entries in hotel guides, culinary guides, popular eating guides, gazeteers, travelogues, and the like. Notable individual locations may meet inclusion criteria, but Wikipedia does not list every tourist attraction, restaurant, hotel, venue, etc. Such details may be welcome at Wikitravel, however.

I'm concerned that articles like Tourism in metropolitan Detroit may cross the line into travel guides. A legitimate tourism article for a city that treats tourism as an industry would probably focus on number of beds, bed taxes, tourism bureaus, transportation, business trends, and a dispassionate listing of attractions and liabilities. Anyway, more guidance would be helpful. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 07:08, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletion: Sydney Coach Terminal

Sydney Coach Terminal (via WP:PROD on 2007-10-03) Deleted

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 03:27, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
updated --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 13:17, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge of Tourist apartheid into Tourism in Cuba

Opinions are welcome. Thank you. --victor falk 00:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Have you checked out this wiki?

I'm not sure if it is what you are looking for, but I am heading to Campinas Brazil next month and wanted some good information. While scouring the internet I stumbled upon this page: http://www.wikiair.com/wiki/Campinas

Upon further surfing, I found a lot of good info on Wikiair.

Again, I'm not sure if this is something you are looking to include, but I couldn't find any reference to WikiAir on Wikipedia.

Thanks!

Jeff —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.44.23 (talk) 08:02, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article for deletion: Virtual tourism

Virtual tourism at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Virtual tourism (2007-11-10 – 2007-11-24) Deleted

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 13:18, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
updated --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:08, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Articles for deletion/UniResMan

If anyone is knowledgeable about this software, comments are invited at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/UniResMan. --Gavin Collins 10:18, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

UniResMan at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/UniResMan (2007-11-12 – 2007-11-13) Speedy Deleted as advertisement

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:10, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article for deletion: Oxford River Cruises

Oxford River Cruises at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oxford River Cruises (2007-11-28 – 2007-12-08) Deleted

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:11, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
updated --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 12:39, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletion: The Australian Crawl

The Australian Crawl (via WP:PROD on 2007-12-19) Deleted

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 15:33, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
update --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:16, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletion: Britain on View

Britain on View (via WP:PROD on 2007-12-26) Redirected→VisitBritain

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:14, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
updated --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:26, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletion: Expedition cruising

Expedition cruising (via WP:PROD on 2007-12-30) Deleted

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:27, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
updated --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 20:07, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletion: Orient Hong Kong's Visitors' Newspaper

Orient Hong Kong's Visitors' Newspaper (via WP:PROD on 2008-01-03) Deleted

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 20:06, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
updated --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:39, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletion: Tourism in Stockholm

Tourism in Stockholm (via WP:PROD on 2007-12-31)

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:06, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletion: Asian American Hotel Owners Association

I thought this might fall in the scope of this project. If not, please let me know here. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:38, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Asian American Hotel Owners Association (via WP:PROD on 2008-01-03)


[edit] Category tagging

Anyone interested? I have found that that template relates cleanly to Class=NA - but there is a massive collection of Class=Cat which has a dangling importance item underneath - I assume that the Class-cat is the one somebody has done a lot of work on. Any comments would be appreciated though it seems few projects have eds who interested in this aspect - cheers SatuSuro 10:24, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry I'm not clear exactly what you're asking here. I've been on a tagging mission with WP:MUSEUMS but haven't done much here TRAVELLINGCARIMy storyTell me yours 13:33, 29 April 2008 (UTC)


OK - depends who created the main template - and who has got enthusiastic - if the tag is put up and the class=cat is put in, the importance= not assessed comes up, but if class=NA then its clean and doesnt answer back but someone has done a massive tagging of class=cat at some point - the project (or active editor(s) ) have to decide which way to go if the project ever gets underway with thorough tabulation of assessment - either all class=cat, or all class=NA (in my understanding of the process) I could be wrong but it would seem that some projects take this stuff seriously - others dont. no big deal - just curious if someone was interested in the slightest in uniformity of tagging within the project - hope that explains, sort of SatuSuro 13:39, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Got it, thanks. Uniformity is a very good thing when we all have time to do it TRAVELLINGCARIMy storyTell me yours 14:19, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Heheh therein lies the rub. Indeed when we all have the time SatuSuro 05:55, 30 April 2008 (UTC)