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[edit] About this intitative
- The first part of the discussion archived - here
I've archived the previous discussions to make room for new initiatives and discussions. I've noticed that this initiative is spreading in different directions.
- This WikiProject SE page and talk page is a place for top-down reflection, coordination and initiation.
- The systems engineering is developing kind of on it's own and maybe a little bottum-up towards requirements set here.
- Some lists, categories and collections are being developed.
- Up to about 60 new articles have been identified here, but this seems just the beginning... Here this initiative can further spread in any directions.
The main objective we started with was quality improvement, but so far we reached a kind of differentiation. - Mdd 01:06, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The article Systems engineering
I've archived the first discussions about this subject here, but I think we should make a summary of the principal points, we spoke of. - Mdd 01:06, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Further use of images in the Systems Engineering articles
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- This talk-item has been moved from the talk:Systems engineering page.
Most of the images on SE in the category systems engineering and on WikiCommons are taken from the Systems Engineering Fundamentals. Defense Acquisition University Press, 2001, partly because they are copytright free. I think these images gives us more alternatives:
- Use them to illustrate current articles
- Use them to illustrate and improve current articles
- Use them also as inspiration to write new articles.
Working in all of these directions do is a lot of work.
You already say so... the images reminds you how vast SE as a topic is. I guess that is a things I wanted to achieve with putting them together in the categories. The use of multiple images at once like in your lead image can give a very strong image... if the images some how fitt together.
I do agree with you we should avoid posting too many images... in one article. A good example for me is the featured Electrical engineering article. That article now 13 pictures. I hope this brings us a bit further. - Mdd 22:06, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
PS. The second link in the list of further readings, Shishko, Robert et al. NASA Systems Engineering Handbook. NASA Center for AeroSpace Information, 1995, doesn't seem to work in Holland.
- You are right about the featured article. Depending on the size of the final article 13-15 images should be fine. Once we get the content right, the images will automatically get chosen. The three directions you've listed above are all relevant. Perhaps we can start with the third one "Use them also as inspiration to write new articles"
- The NASA Sys. Engr. file in further readings is huge (~168 mb). I've uploaded another copy here Image:NASA Systems Engr Handbook.pdf in case you don't have this one, too. Gnusbiz 02:30, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Conclusion: think we should move this talk-item to the this talk page, because of little concern of the SE article itselve, but it concerns the SE in Wikipedia in general. - Mdd 22:30, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Images as inspiration to create new articles
The reason why I moved this talk-item here is the above suggestion of Gnusbiz to start with the third option to use the images collected as inspiration to write new articles. This step I already mentioned as initiative 8, see this project page under listing of initiatives. In a way I also started this action point on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Systems/List of Systems Engineering Images page, with the subscripts under every image. This is a first inventarisation of the possibilities of these images. - Mdd 15:13, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The subcategories in the German De:Kategorie:Systemengineering
I have noticed today, that the German Wikipedia also has a SE category, and in that category there are several subcategories that are not in the English SE category. (Now you don't need a lot of German knowledge to notice this...) This made me wonder, if these same English subcategories should be in the English SE category? - Mdd 14:40, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
- Do you have a substantial number of articles for the categories? DGG (talk) 19:11, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
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- Five of the seven categories in the German De:Kategorie:Systemengineering have already similar English categories. This question is not about creating new categories, but about creating links between them. - Mdd 21:06, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] List of systems engineering books
A List of systems engineering books is being developed to get an overview of the more important books written on systems engineering, and it's historical development. If you have any information or other notable lists, please edit the list yourselve or let us know? - Mdd 22:10, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] List of systems engineering at universities
A List of systems engineering at universities is beeing developed to get a better impression of the State of the Art in SE education. If you have any information, please edit the list yourselve or let us know? - Mdd 22:10, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
