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General discussion - List of Saw traps

What does this have to do with WP:PW? Lex94 Talk Contributions Signatures 19:04, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, like the Wikipedia Signpost, this newsletter would be "a community-written and community-edited newspaper, covering events and stories related to the [WP:PW community]". The Chronic 20:13, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Saw traps? Do I even need to know what we are talking about here or has it already been removed "nothing to see here move along"? Clueless - --Naha|(talk) 01:36, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
He's talking about my references to the Saw wikiprject's newsletter. The Chronic 01:39, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Gotcha. --Naha|(talk) 01:57, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion - by Gavyn Sykes

I like what you have down so far. Other things that I believe should be listed are articles that need to be created, articles on the verge of deletion and unsourced articles. I was thinking we could also list those WP:PW members that have done outstanding work in the last week. Gavyn Sykes 23:26, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Listing articles that are up for deletion, those unsourced articles, and lists of notable contributers are very good ideas. One thing I question though is listing articles that need to be created. Although it is a newsletter, it shouldn't have everything on it. It should have more important announcements that are notable to the users. Other than that, all your suggestions are good, and I'll put that into the drawing board. The Chronic 23:48, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Another thing, about listing articles that are up for deletion: I don't know about you, but deletion decisions are made much more quickly than in 7 days. If I was to list an article that is up for deletion now, it may be obsolete by the deadline (I'm aiming for a release date of November 11). Of course, if the deletion debate comes up right before the deadline, it would be appropriate to post. That's just something to keep in mind. The Chronic 23:53, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you. I see your points. You're right, articles are deleted much quicker than that. But if there any up for deletion a day or less before we release the newsletter, there's no reason not to list them. Gavyn Sykes 00:01, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Of course listing recently deleted articles just as an FYI is also not a problem either (I didn't think of that before). The Chronic 01:06, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Just as an FYI, our Project's Notice Board aleady includes a link (or "notice" :P) to Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Wrestling. Cheers, --Naha|(talk) 04:01, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion - by The Hybrid

We might consider placing the entire thing in a hide/show box, so it doesn't take up a lot of room on the subscriber's talk page. We may also consider playing with the colors a little to make it more enthralling. Other than that, and possibly some written articles on current events, I don't see much that needs to be done. If anyone has some suggestions for some articles, I'm open to it. Cheers, The Hybrid T/C 01:13, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

The color scheme of that I will expiriment. I was thinking for a header that looks like the WP:PW-nav thing above;"WP:PW" in the little box to the left and etc. Feel free to expiriment. Current events have already been mentioned. As for the "show/hide" thing: I don't really find that neccessary (there are some newsletters out there that are bigger than this), but if there is a hide design that looks good, I'll consider that. Thank you for all your suggestions! The Chronic 01:39, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
I updated the color scheme of the newsletter to "gold" type colors, like those of a title belt - in a small attempt to keep it theme oriented lol. I like it ok but don't know about anyone else. As far as keeping it in line with the WP:PW-nav bar, I respect that, but have felt that nav bar (and the PW project pages as a whole) need an updated look, which would include a more up-beat color scheme. I just haven't officially proposed or done any work on it yet. Any thoughts on the gold scheme? --Naha|(talk) 03:58, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
I think it looks good. The thing is that I kind of want it to go in line with the WP:PW theme (grey and light gray). If you're going to update the actual WP:PW mainspace, you would proably do it in this color scheme (which may not fit so easily with the communiy, but it's worth a shot). The Chronic 04:22, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Yeah I know, they should match I agree. I just think the grays are so drab and professional wrestling is anything but drab. The colors need to be punched up project-wide IMO. I supposed I could "be bold" and just go do it, leaving a note on the WP:PW talk page about why I did it and asking people not to get mad at me lol. :P I mean, worst case ...everyone hates it and it gets reverted. --Naha|(talk) 04:26, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Well, it may be good to try to cbange the color scheme. I mean, we're beginning to get more publicity with the Screwjob article going on the Main Page. I say go for it, and hope for the best. The Chronic 04:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I just tried the hide/show box on the drawing board. Comments? The Hybrid T/C 04:33, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Crating 2 drawing boards (I'll create more if more designs come up). The Chronic 04:37, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm not too fond of it for some reason. The newsletter is on the large side, but its minimizing much too small IMO now. Also, I'm not sure what happened on Drawing Board #2 but ALL the text is now centered and it really doesn't look good that way at all. --Naha|(talk) 04:39, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
I thought that I had told it not to center. I'll look at that in a second. I'll also see if I can make it larger. Cheers, The Hybrid T/C 04:41, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
I've tried everything that I can think of to no avail :(. Sorry, The Hybrid T/C 04:50, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Well I'm going to expiriment with the layout of my drawing board. The Chronic 04:50, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
How's the current design of mine? I made it to resemble the Main Page. The Chronic 06:24, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Personally, I think the colors are still drab. I had changed the colors project-wide to vibrant golds but another user came right behind me and changed them again to a different gold and that is what you saw when you updated the colors for the newsletter :/ I have added a discussion regarding color scheme so everyone can decided what they want to do. Please comment there if you will. I, of course, like my choice better than the one Aaru changed it too. However, I won't be upset if the majority want to go with it, it is still better than the grey that was there before. Thanks, --Naha|(talk) 06:32, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion - by Nahallac Silverwinds

It looks really cool so far. I really like the notice about the Montreal Screwjob, however aside from that it just looks like stuff I can get on the main page of WP:PW. Fabulous Moohlah just passed away, that could be something to add ..other "news" stuff like that could be interesting. But so far I feel most of what is there really isn't needed in a weekly delivery system. I was hoping more for stuff that I'm not likely to notice elsewhere. CoTW is already delivered weekely so that is not needed at all in the newsletter IMO and the list of GA and FA candidates are easily accessible already. What about having a section kind of like DYK? except it explains 1 PW:PW guideline/"policy" in each installment. Stuff a lot of people miss or don't know about. Again, while you have done a good job making what is currently on the newsletter look nice, I just don't find it to be valuable information that doesn't already easily stand out to me on the PW:PW pages. Could you look over my suggestions on PW talk again maybe? I don't know, sorry I can't come up with more. Cheers, --Naha|(talk) 01:21, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Well I was indeed thinking of a DYK section and a real-life current events section. I will put those ideas on the board. As for your comments about announcements (about how we can already find those on the community page): I think that, while obviously you and me already check the messageboards every day, there are more users (mainly newbies) that don't do so. I think the newsletter would be something that sums up al the events that happen in the community rhat will keep everybody up to date. For the COTW: the announcement of that would have to be delivered through the newsletter (which I will coordinate with the COTW people when the time comes). Again, I will accept any suggestions and any news ideas to put into the newsboards. The Chronic 01:39, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Good points about how not everyone checks the PW:PW pages daily/weekly as far as general news. However I don't understand your comment about the COTW notice in the newsletter. There already IS a weekly notice that gets posted to the talk pages of people who belong to WP:PW, which is why I fail to see the necessity for its inclusion in the newsletter ...because I don't think we need this particular information delivered twice per week, if that makes more sense :) --Naha|(talk) 01:43, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
About the COTW: I was thinking of basically announcing the weekly COTW as part of the newsletter, which would replace the current COTW notice. The COTW is announced every week, and depending on the newsletter's schedule (I myself am imagining the newsletter being released every Sunday, the same day as when the COTW is announced), the announcement would be posted in the newsletter. The Chronic 01:59, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Ohhhhhhhhhh you want to replace the COTW notice with the newsletter which in turn, will have a note about the COTW. I totally see where you are coming from now! Yes I agree, 1 weekly notice > 2. Good idea! --Naha|(talk) 02:09, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
This is coming along quite well. I like your ideas, Naha. I was thinking the newsletter could also summarize rumors and commons speculation floating around dirtsheet sites and message boards. This could help combat vandalism. Would have been a great thing to have when the Y2J save us promos aired. Gavyn Sykes 02:23, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Another good idea. (Gosh, this page is becoming quite bulky now.) :) The Chronic 02:27, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
You know after stating over and over that I didn't have time to contribute to this thing at all ..thats practically all I've been doing tonight as far as Wikipedia is concerned lol. I'm such an idiot. Anyway, I've added 4 news topics to the "In the real world" section of the newsletter. All of these events have already been documented in their respective Wikipedia articles, including one that I just wrote up and cited in JBL's article myself.
As far as rumors go, since they are not going to be in article mainspace, I personally don't have a problem with them as long as they are cited from a decent source in the newsletter. --Naha|(talk) 03:03, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Well, I didn't know about the JBL news and the Junior Fatu news before I read it here. Looks like you're doing a good job. Of course I want to publish this in 8 days (from November 3). There's plenty of time to do all that improving. Thank you for your help! The Chronic 03:06, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
I think the rumors should be in the newsletter so they don't get into the main space. But a source of some sort will be needed, even though it won't be a good one. I lurk (but rarely post) on the GameFAQs Pro Wrestling board, so I'll keep on the lookout for rumors and fads. Gavyn Sykes 03:11, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Well any citation is better than no citation :) --Naha|(talk) 03:55, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
I really like Chronic's current version of the newsletter as far as layout and colors are concerned :) --Naha|(talk) 07:48, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. One thing that's the problem is that the top right-hand box (with "current events") extends too far down. I need it to be matching the length of the "project news" box. The Chronic 16:19, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

General discussion - Project space?

Should we move this into project space? It seems like that would be a good thing to do, since this is a collaborative effort of the entire project (or should be). Cheers, The Hybrid T/C 08:01, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Deal. The Chronic 08:02, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Done. The Chronic 08:17, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks :) The Hybrid T/C 08:19, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion - by The Chronic

I was thinking whether or not to add a "trivia" section to the newsletter; something to make it more interesting. I was thinking announcing events on the calendar, a "on this week", and maybe the number of members in WP:PW. What do you guys think of that? The Chronic 18:57, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I see no problem with annoucing calendar events. However, the more and more that keeps getting added to the newsletter, the more we will actually need that show/hide bar, even as much as I don't like the way it looks.... especially since people who receive the newsletter are asking for the show/hide bar. It will be taking up a lot of room on people's talk pages, especially people who don't archive that often due to low traffic or whatever. --Naha|(talk) 17:04, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Is there a way to make the show/hide thing so all you see is this?:
The WikiProject Professional wrestling newsletter
Issue I - November 11, 2007
I know Hybrid had it set up at one point to show/hide but when it was hidden it was a really tiny thin line and it was barely noticable, probably the default way it works (assuming it can be altered). That was honestly my only beef with the show/hide bar. --Naha|(talk) 17:11, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
He did put in a hide/show box at one time. The only setback was thatm when opened, the title would be there twice (which would be a setback). Besides, the design was kinda ugly. If anyone can make a hide/show feature with the header above, that would be great (or just put a hide/show feature on each of the sections (project news, current events, etc.). The Chronic 00:18, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Oh yeah. I don't think a "on this day" thing would be suitable (kinda boring). but I do think annoucing events on the calendar and the number of members on WP:PW would work. The Chronic 00:30, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Feedback - by FamicomJL

It looks really good, but be careful, I already saw a spelling error in the "From the Editor" section. :P Other than that, it looks really nice, great job to everyone who worked on it! FamicomJL 18:20, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I, or anyone with Mozilla Firefox should probably do a spell check before notifying Misza, but other than that I think this worked out great :) The Hybrid T/C 21:29, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, that was my bad. I'll try to do a better job with the proofreading next time. The Chronic 03:33, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Opinion note: I prefered the look of the newsletter that was delivered yesterday as opposed to what next week's looks like right now. I don't really care for the new heading on it that makes it look like WP:PW's link bar. The way it was before ..with the title centered and the little PW stars on each end was really neat! Just my 2 cents ;) --Naha|(talk) 07:17, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I've put that onto the drawing board. I personally prefer the new design, but not to abuse my (self-proclaimed) powers as chief editor :P, I'll wait for feedback on that. ;) The Chronic 07:33, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
By the way, I fixed up the overall layout of the newsletter (to conserve vertical space). How's that? The Chronic 07:36, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Looks good :) --Naha|(talk) 07:44, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
I to like the one with the stars, personally. If we want we could probably throw some ankhs in there as well, but that's pushing the envelope of what makes sense a little bit :P The Hybrid T/C 07:49, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
I prefer the original. Davnel03 07:53, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
The original is best. The difference between headers, is the adding of the box which says WP:PW; and I find the box unneeded, due to a wikilink in the center of the header for Wikipedia:WikiProject Professional Wrestling. PS. also, the two stars were cool. Cheers, Lex94 Talk Contributions Guest Book 18:38, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Done. The newsletter will retain it's original header. The Chronic 07:02, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Feedback - by Nikki311

I really like the newsletter. The only major feedback I can give is to make sure and copy edit it before sending it out. There were a couple of spelling mistakes: The Fabulous Moolah's real name is spelled Lillian Ellison (according to her article anyway) and a few typos. Other than that, I think it turned out better than I was expecting. I do like Hybrid's idea for a show/hide bar, though. I think after a couple of newsletters are delivered, it could really clog up a talk page. Nikki311 23:04, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Feedback - by Davnel03

My first impression is that it's very good. Of course there's typos - its the first edition - I'm sure no one was expecting it to be perfect - no human is perfect, are they??!! Anyway, I'm suggesting a way we could improve spelling errors and general grammar as a whole. So, here's my suggestion:

  • Get the Newsletter completed by at least Friday Night.
  • Leave a general note on the WP:PW talkpage, just stating the newsletter is complete and say that you may fix typos and copy-edit it etc.....
  • Other users then (hopefully!) on the Saturday give it a clean-up and fix any typos.
  • The Chronic can write the "Editors Part" Sunday Morning.
  • Others check it throughout Sunday to check typos again and stuff.
  • Ask Misza to dispatch it Sunday Night.

This is just of the top of my head - and obviously if anything happens major in the wrestling world on the Friday or Saturday, the newsletter would have to be rewritten to a certain degree. Opinions on the above points? Davnel03 18:33, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Or, after it's finished (whenever that may be), we could have someone with Mozilla Firefox (which does spellcheck for you when you click edit), and has good grammar skillz proofread it before we notify Misza. This doesn't have to be hard, so long as we make sure the proofreader has good grammar. I'd be willing to volunteer, and I get the feeling that Nikki and Naha are also more than capable of this. Cheers, The Hybrid T/C 22:59, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
I'll always be glad to proofread if I have time. I'm also forgetful, so anytime anyone wants me to do something (proofread this or literally anything else) ..please feel free to leave a message on my talk page. That little notification telling me I have a new message does wonders :) --Naha|(talk) 04:54, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I've proofread this week's edition and made several small spelling/grammar/link fix type edits. Feel free to check my work and proofread things for yourselves to see if there is anything I missed! :) Cheers, --Naha|(talk) 14:52, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Breaking news - Cena/CNN issue

I haven't had time yet, but I'm surprised that the John Cena/CNN fiasco hasn't made its way into the newsletter yet. Just thought I'd mention it incase someone has time to add it. --Naha|(talk) 16:36, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh yeah. That sounds notable. I'll add it. Thanks! The Chronic 06:01, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Feedback - Send out

Why hasn't the newsletter been sent yet? Lex94 Talk Contributions Guest Book 00:18, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Misza hasn't booted up the robot to deliver the newsletter yet. The Chronic 01:41, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
oh ok. but technically, you're almost 12 hours late. Lex94 Talk Contributions Guest Book 02:35, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Miza does it as soon as possible which was known when we started up the COTW notice; we are lucky that she does it at all. --Naha|(talk) 05:10, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, she only promised to do it within 24 hours. Like Naha said, we're lucky she does it at all. The Hybrid T/C 15:53, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Can't we create our own bot to do this? Lex94 Talk Contributions Guest Book 17:01, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
I've made a request for a script for one. As for the newsletter: if it doesn't get released by Wednesday, we'll need to cancel this week's issue and merge it into next week's. The Chronic 18:27, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 November 18's issue of the newsletter will be cancelled. It will be merged into next week's issue. The Chronic 05:18, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

General discussion - Drawing board

I have requested the drawing board be deleted, as I feel it won't be needed anymore. Drafts will be made on hte Issue pages (depending on the upcoming issue). The Chronic 03:19, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion - by Lex

Now that this week's issue has been cancelled, can we implement the Show/Hide format that I made in the next issue? Lex T/C Guest Book 19:25, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Sure. But before we do that, there are two issues with that... first: we need to un-center the template. second: personally, I don't like that particular design for a show/hide bar. I'd suggest fixing up the color/design of that. The Chronic 05:33, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion - Ric Flair retirment

Should we add this to the newsletter in Current Events? Lex T/C Guest Book 04:08, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

No. He didn't retire. Even if he did lose the match with Randy Orton, it might be just some short tern absence. We won't add any releases until we find out whether or not it is legit. The Chronic 04:21, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Absolutely true. Zenlax T C S 20:08, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Feedback - by Vicius

Whoa, you've all done an excellent work with the newsletter, needless t'say congratulations are in order. If there is any room or need for help in future issues, ye can count on me. Cheers!Vicius (talk) 05:33, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Breaking news - by GaryColemanFan

I don't really understand how to contrubute anything to the newsletter, but it should be mentioned that Amy Dumas and Royal Rumble (1994) both passed GA reviews since the last newsletter. GaryColemanFan (talk) 16:31, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion - Delivery format

I intend to keep the newsletter as it is right now (no show/hide thing). However, would it be good to implement the option of notifying the new newsletter to those who would rather not have the full newsletter delivered to their talk pages? This may be a solution to the bulky newsletter in talk page problem. The Chronic 01:37, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Done. The Chronic 07:52, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion - Weekly poll

Another suggestion: as part of the "interactive" thing, do you think we should ask a poll each week on the newsletter, let the poll run for a week or two, then release the results of the poll on the next newsletter? The Chronic 06:53, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

What kind of polls? About pro wrestling (ex. Which is better, WWE or TNA) or about the project? (ex. Should the project have a portal?) Lex T/C Guest Book 15:39, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Actually, the ideas I was considering for the poll have been taken over by the interview thing. I don't think we'll my poll idea until later. The Chronic 06:25, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Feedback - by TJ Spyke

Two glaring problems in this weeks newsletter. 1)It's "WWE Raw", not "WWE Monday Night Raw". 2)It should not be reported as fact that Senshi was released from TNA when it's just hearsay from PWTorch and is not confirmed, at most it should be reported as a rumor (if mentioned at all). TJ Spyke 22:15, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

You can go yell at ThinkBlue for the RAW thing, and you can go yell at Lex for the Senshi news. The Chronic 22:39, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
It wouldn't do any good since the newsletter has already been sent out this week. I am surprised that no one caught these beforehand. TJ Spyke 22:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
I don't really see why you're making such a big stink about the former, it's nothing that major, to be honest. These things happen. Close enough, IMO. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 23:06, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm not making a stink. This is the feedback page, so I decided to leave feedback on this weeks issue. TJ Spyke 23:24, 9 December 2007 (UTC)\
My apologies. It seemed like "glaring issues" was a bit of a harsh choice of words to me. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 23:26, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
You don't need to apoligize. All I meant was those two issues just seemed very obvious from just glancing at the newsletter. 23:47, 9 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by TJ Spyke (talk • contribs)
Well go yell at Blue and Lex anyways. :) The Chronic 23:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

General discussion - Wrestling news

Some possible news stories this week: Jake Roberts has accepted WWE's offer of paying for rehab to any former WWE wrestlers ([1]). Also, Ric Flair's 19 year old son Reid (who appeared on WCW TV several times as a little kid) has been signed to a developmental contract by WWE (reported in the WO newsletter). TJ Spyke 04:14, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Good, good. BTW, what does it mean by "Jake Roberts offering rehab to former WWE superstars"? The Chronic 06:26, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
WWE is offering to pay the costs of rehab for any former WWE superstar (initiated as part of the Wellness Policy), and Jake Roberts has taken them up on their offer (better late than never for him). TJ Spyke 06:40, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Cool. Could you post it on the draft for me? Thanks. The Chronic 06:54, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

General discussion - Letter late this week

Is Mizabot just late with it this week or did it glitch and I didn't get the letter? Just checking, sorry to bug you guys. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 19:48, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

I got the newsletter just now. Looks like everything's in order. The Chronic 00:04, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion - by The Hybrid

I would really like to personalize the newsletter, you know, make people feel like there's a real personal touch to it. I think that a good way to do this would be to conduct interviews with project members. We could make it a monthly thing. One idea would be to send out a notice in the first newsletter of the month telling anyone willing to be interviewed to sign up on a list. The next week would be the week for the project members to vote for whoever they would like to see interviewed the most, and over the third week we could have them submit questions for the interviewee to answer. They would have the entire next week to answer the questions, and in the final newsletter of the month the interview would be published. Thoughts? The Hybrid T/C 07:37, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Considering the number of dedicated members in our community, it shouldn't be too hard to do that. I'll put that into consideration. Nice idea! The Chronic 07:40, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Cool :) The Hybrid T/C 07:41, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I like this, too! I think knowing a little more about each other will help us feel more like friends and cut down on arguments and uncivilty towards each other. Though the latter isn't a huge problem, it does occasionally show up. We could ask wrestling-related questions too, such as favorite wrestler, promotion, etc. Plus, how you got interested in wrestling. The last thing is always interesting to me, as people ask me that all the time because I'm a girl. :) Nikki311 23:09, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah what Nikki said :) I swear I could just add "ditto" after the majority of her posts around the 'pedia and I'd rarely have to talk myself :P --Naha|(talk) 17:06, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

So, um, when do we implement this? I'd be willing to do the work, but I need a date. Cheers, The Hybrid T/C 22:49, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Do we do this for this week's issue, or next week's issue? The Chronic 00:28, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Prolly next week's, as we need some time to determine the format of the list, and we should probably have the design for the voting period planned out ahead of time. I'll help work on this tomorrow, when I get a chance. Peace, The Hybrid T/C 06:54, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
I never got any time today. Hopefully I'll get started tomorrow. should I follow the standard color scheme, or should I use some other colors? Peace, The Hybrid T/C 02:23, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

I would willingly do that interview if asked. I have a title for it: Whats the deal with... (Name Here). we have the same thing in my school. I was the focus of it once. Straight Edge Superstar 03:47, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, looks like I'm not planning on making the page, seeing as I completely forgot about this. Sorry guys :(. Anyway, in an unrelated matter, I didn't find any problems with the grammar of this weeks issue, nor any spelling mistakes. The Hybrid T/C 03:51, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

I think this a fine idea. My apologies for my lack of input the last few weeks, I neglected to put this page on my watchlist and...er...completely forgot about it. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 04:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Okay. I think the interview thing would work for the next interview. First things first: we need to set up a schedule of who to interview in the upcoming weeks. I've set it up below. The Chronic 06:39, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm willing to be interviewed, but with how lazy I've been lately it'd probably be best to have me somewhere near the middle, or the end of the schedule, assuming I'd be interviewed. The Hybrid T/C 08:21, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm also up for being interviewed. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 15:28, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Of course, we also need someone to also do the interview (wrtie up the questions, etc.). The Chronic 16:12, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
My idea was to have the community write the questions, and we'd just organize them into a single form to be filled out. My idea was also to let the community volunteer to be interviewed, and also decide who it would be, but the last part isn't too important. I do, however, think we should have people be notified of who will be interviewed, and have them submit questions. That way we know they are questions the community is interested in having answered. The Hybrid T/C 23:14, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Okay. Registration for interview starts... NOW (first dibbs, enter your name to whatever newsletter you want to be interviewed for). The Chronic 04:26, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

For asking the questions: do you think be should establish a standard set of interview questions (that stays the same "forever", like the RfA questions), and then ask another 1, 2 or 3 questions by the community (like Cena's old "5 Questions" segment)? The Chronic 04:40, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm in, I would love to be interviewed. TJ Spyke 04:49, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
As far as your idea for a standard set of questions, plus some community ones, that sounds like a good idea to me. I just want to make sure that questions about each person in particular can be asked, as all of us are different, and generic questions can only do so much. To use myself as an example, I was involved in the spoiler dispute from its formation to its most recent closure. If anyone wants to ask anything about my involvement in that, then they should be able to. However, I think the interviewee should choose which questions to answer, and which to not, rather than us selecting a few of them. I think that it would be a nice gesture to go through and delete any duplicates, but the remaining decisions should be up to interviewee discretion. The Hybrid T/C 05:26, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, it may also depend on how many people will respond and ask a question. The Chronic 06:50, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I'd love to be interviewed. Do I just add my name to the schedule? Nikki311 19:49, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I'd also liked to be interviewed. So, where do I sign up? Zenlax T C S 20:26, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
In the chart below. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 01:16, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Questions

Here's a brainstorm list for the possible "standard" questions. Feel free to add any more ideas that come to mind. The Chronic 05:56, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

  1. How'd you begin watching professional wrestling?
  2. How'd you hear/find out about Wikipedia?
  3. Who is your favorite wrestler and why?
  4. What school do you attend, and what is your major? (since the majority of us are college students)
    1. What city/area do you currently live in?
  5. What is the origin of your username?
  6. What other projects to do participate in on Wikipedia besides WP:PW?
  7. If you were to become a pro wrestler, what would you choose your entrance theme to be?
  8. If you were in control of WWE/TNA/etc., what would you change about it?
  9. What has been your favorite wrestling match of all-time?
  10. What three words can describe you?

Two things: one, regarding the school question - could we alter it a bit, since not all of us go to college yet (me and D.M.N. come to mind)? and second - should some of the questions (favorite wrestler) be suitable for my "poll" sugestion below (since that may be more suitable)? The Chronic 00:20, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

That's fine. You can change and/or deleted my questions. All is good. :) Nikki311 03:03, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
How about an "origins of your username" question? Gavyn Sykes (talk) 01:16, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Good, good. Based on the questions right now, I can imagine that we may have a ten question interview, consisting of 5 questions relating to professional wrestling and five questions relating generally to Wikipedia + bonus community questions. The Chronic 01:48, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Just to point out, some of us will probably refuse to answer some of the personal questions. For me, I've given away too much info about myself to answer any specific questions about what I'm doing in real life, as my identity would be compromised. The Hybrid T/C 02:49, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
...like say the school question above? The Chronic 03:03, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
I think if you are in, say, high school. Yes. That might compromise your identity. My university, however, has 33,000 people...so I'm not too worried. :) Nikki311 03:05, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
The school question isn't pertinent to me, but the logical alternative cannot be answered without bringing enough information on-wiki to determine exactly who I am in real life. The Hybrid T/C 05:42, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
...or should you be? :P (I'm crossing the school question off the list, unless anyone else objects.) The Chronic 03:29, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
No reason to cut it. If someone doesn't feel comfortable answering, that's fine. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 03:49, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
I don't know. Asking "what school/college you go to" may be too irrevelant, IMO. Maybe something like the hometown or present location (the name of the city) would be okay. The Chronic 04:32, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Here's one. What three words can describe you? Zenlax T C S 21:12, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Good, good. Anyways, I've decided to delay the first interview into next week's issue. I feel we need to time to prepare. The Chronic 05:17, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, we need to poll the community for questions to ask TJ :) The Hybrid T/C 06:02, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, we can fit that into this upcoming issue. The Chronic 06:56, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Sorry I haven't posted in a few days, I've been having problems getting online (my router hasn't seemed to want to work on a consistant basis). The questions look good so far. If it matters, I have no problems answering any questions (including my edit history and problems which are sorta infamous). TJ Spyke 03:11, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Maybe an "extra (optional) comments by the interviewee" part to the interview. The Chronic 06:25, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion - From the Editors

Should we take turns in writing the "from the editors" thing each week? I'm kinda getting tired of writing the editor's note thing. The Chronic 04:02, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Sure, good idea. Maybe the interviewed editor can write the From the editor section. Lex T/C Guest Book 15:38, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, The Hybrid just wrote the from the editor thing. I guess it'll just be a first dibbs thing; the first one to writes it gets credit for it. The Chronic 06:25, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Interview segment

If you would like to submit a question to ask an interviewee, please list it here under the appropriate subsection. If an interviewee does not have a subsection, please create one using two equal signs.

Here's the likely format for the interview. Tell me what you think. The Chronic 06:47, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

We still need one permanent "Personal" question for use in all interviews, + community questions for each individual interviewee on the schedule. Each candidate has the right to refuse to answer any of the questions, but probably won't, as they volunteered for the interview, and should be expecting some hard-hitting questions. Depending on how many they receive, however, they may run out of time.

~ The Chronic 00:52, 17 December 2007 (UTC)/The Hybrid T/C 02:30, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Please create a subsection for your desired interview if there isn't one already, and sign your questions. Try to use correct grammar, punctuation, and capitalization. Thanks, The Hybrid T/C 16:33, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Er...how and where do we create said subsection? Gavyn Sykes (talk) 20:05, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Use three equal signs and the user's name directly below here. Cheers, The Hybrid T/C 22:39, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
  • slaps self on head* Wow, I feel like and idiot. It's not like I haven't created subsections before. Oh well, I had a moment, lol. You mean list which questions out of the above that we would be willing to answer then? Gavyn Sykes (talk) 00:16, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Actually, it's for the community (not you) to ask the interviewee (you) their questions. Those up above are just the default questions, and we're expected to answer all of them unless we feel it wouldn't be right for some reason. The Hybrid T/C 20:55, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I don't know where to put this. I think 3 questions that a lot of us are curious about are other's ages, education levels and work/profession if they are applicable. Now some people won't want to answer this and that is perfectly fine. I'll gladly do it though. However, It should be entirely optional. But if people do want to talk about it, I'd like there to be a space in the interview for them to answer those questions. Personally, it helps me when I'm talking to people on here when I know more about them and their background...what they might be good at, who I should ask particular questions of ..all kinds of stuff. Other less personal stuff about wrestling ..favorite wrestler/tag team/promotion/favorite plot line of all time ..stuff like that. --Naha|(talk) 21:03, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I definitely agree with all that, Naha. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 21:59, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
In a previous conversation, I mentioned that the logical alternative to where the interviewee goes to school would compromise my identity. What I was addressing was the work/profession question, so I can't be answering that one. I probably wouldn't answer the others either, as I've already given away too much information about myself on Wikipedia. There's no sense compromising myself further. But, if others are comfortable answering, then that's absolutely fine, of course. Cheers, The Hybrid T/C 03:24, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
So you're a secret agent, huh? Lol. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 03:31, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
B^) The Hybrid T/C 03:42, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Yes like I said, those questions would be optional. Technically, all questions are optional and people should only answer what they feel comfortable with. I'm not going to give out my full name, address and telephone number lol, but for me, stuff like what I mentioned isn't compromising. But we are all in different situations and that is expected and completely understandable. :) --Naha|(talk) 12:43, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I must be mistaken. A secret agent wouldn't have time to watch pro wrestling. The Hybrid must work at Area 51. All joking aside, I agree with Naha. All questions are optional. I won't be giving out my full name or anything like that either, but I can safely reveal some other personal things. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 15:28, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

General discussion - by Nikki311

Where are we supposed to put the interview questions? I have one I want to ask for The Hybrid's interview. Nikki311 01:46, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

I had the question section all set up, but someone destroyed it (again), much to my chagrin. I guess the fact that this was my idea, so I have some idea of how to handle it means absolutely nothing. I guess the fact that I had a plan for implementation, including the acceptance of questions, before I even suggested the idea isn't worth paying attention to. I guess that they just want to ignore that instructions have been given in past newsletters. I guess they don't care about getting the community interested or involved, so they're wiling to change the rules in the middle of the game, and are fine screwing with the community. Just ask me on my talk, I guess, and screw this talk page.</anger> Cheers Nikki, SexySeaBass 03:29, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, depending on how many people decide to ask a question, I think it would be okay to expand the limit of community questions to 5, or possibly to the full number of question Fish Outta Water gets (sorry, reminds me of a song). The Chronic 05:23, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm ignoring this pointless limit, and any others such as 5, or 10, or 100000000000, and I encourage everyone else to as well. Why create rules that limit community freedom before there is a problem? Oh, and thanks for destroying my setup again. Now there are no directions for those who want to submit questions, and no area for the interviewees to see the questions for them. You, oh glorious "Head Editor", can fix it this time, since obviously you didn't like my setup before. Obviously this idea will be completely unsuccesful, since you can't even seem to figure out an organized way to accept questions, but destroy my setups over and over again. If you want to declare yourself the leader of this newsletter, and lead it off of a cliff, then feel free, but I won't have any part of it. I proposed this newsletter, and I proposed this segment. However, my plan for implementation was completely ignored. My system of implementation, which had the community deciding every aspect of the interview, and spreading the interviews out to make sure this was a long-lasting and successful idea was completely ignored, and replaced with a fast-paced, and poorly planned knock-off decided exclusively by some authoritarian self declared leader. Why do we even need a leader? This is Wikipedia! Whatever happened to collaboration? God I'm pissed off! People were supporting my idea a while back, not just an interview section in general. My idea would have worked because it was set up in such a way that no one person could screw it up. My idea would have worked because people were encouraged to participate, and not just read. However, last week's interview receiving no questions shows how stupidly this pathetic imitation of my original plan is set up. Your userpage says that you believe in the principals of Libertarianism, just like mine does. Ha, what a laugh. You have Democracy presented to you, and decided on by the majority, and you use your self-given power to overrule it, and replace it with a system where you're in control. Look at what has happened because of it. I consider you a friend, but you've really offended me, and angered me. Oh, and take that userbox off of your page; you aren't a Libertarian. SexySeaBass 07:30, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

THERE. Happy? The Chronic 19:28, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

*sighs* And the project drifts farther apart before our very eyes...Gavyn Sykes (talk) 01:02, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm satisfied. There's nothing to be done about the other problems at this point; hopefully we can avoid making more mistakes in the future. I apologize for the anger; I overreacted. I have a nasty habit of lashing out childishly at random intervals. I hope that you won't hold it against me. Cheers, SexySeaBass 12:42, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

General discussion - Taking a break

I've been very, very inactively lately, so I'm gonna go ahead and make the wikibreak official. I'm only noting it here because I probably won't be proofreading the newsletter, or doing anything else for it in the near future. I'll be back helping someday; I always am, but just not right now. Cheers everyone. SexySeaBass 04:35, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh, forgot about this. I'll help out around here again. Peace, SexySeaBass 01:50, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion - by iMatthew

Seeing that there are many people who would like to be interviewed, maybe we should do two interviews per week. We are already filled up until February 24. There are currently 11 people on the waiting list. As of now, the last interview would be held on May 11th, 2008. Maybe we should take a poll on one or two interviews per week? iMatthew (talk) 15:12, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Done. The Chronic 05:54, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I am strongly against this, because eventually, there won't be anyone else to interview.  :S
Lex T/C Guest Book 00:00, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, maybe after everyone has their interview, we can go around again in the same order, but do a different type of interview. (ex. user's favorite, user's likes and dislikes of the superstars) iMatthew (talk) 13:58, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Feedback - by Alex Roggio

How did the Community Question I asked Hybrid become a permanent question for every interview? lol Lex T/C Guest Book 18:14, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

The other question (what has been your favorite wrestling match/event of all time) was, IMO, not really a very good question for the interview (as in somewhat uninteresting; TJ Spyke didn't have anything to answer for that question). The Chronic 05:53, 1 January 2008 (UTC)