Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Micronations/Micronation convention

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[edit] Definition

The definition put forward on this page does not match that on the extant Micronations page. It probably should more closely match that definition, although it can give a degree of prominence to one type or another. We don't want to use different definitions than thos in the existing content, though, as that might cause a bit more confusion than we necessarily want. John Carter (talk) 21:02, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

My view is that this proposed convention must reflect existing definitions and conventions. It should not be a back door attempt to subtly redefine or alter existing conventions. Most long-term contributors to WP are already aware of the conventions that apply to these sorts of articles, as most are simply common-sense interpretations of formal WP policy. I'm not convinced that repeating policy here is necessary - but if it is to be repeated it should certainly be accurate. --Gene_poole (talk) 01:10, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed changes

The text currently reads this:

If the micronation itself considers itself to be something other than a micronation, then this must also be mentioned in the article.

The micronation infobox should be used for micronation articles."

I would suggest changing the phrasing, for the purposes of clarity, to the following:

"If the entity in question describes itself with a term other than micronation, although the term "micronation" is also specifically used, then the term "micronation" can be used to describe it, although the other term should also be specifically included in the article. If an entity clearly does not consider itself to be a micronation, although outside sources regularly describe it by that or substantially similar terms, then it can also be called a micronation, based on the outside sources.

The micronations infobox should be added to the main page of all articles which qualify under either of the criteria above."

Having said this, it might be a good idea to add a parameter like "self-described" to indicate whether the entity in question describes itself as a micronation or not. John Carter (talk) 19:09, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree with that - definitely a better and more accurate definition. Onecanadasquarebishopsgate (talk) 19:39, 13 January 2008 (UTC)