Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Lehigh Valley

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	WikipediaWikiProject Lehigh Valley is part of WikiProject Lehigh Valley, which is building a comprehensive and detailed guide to the Lehigh Valley region of Pennsylvania on Wikipedia. To participate, you can edit the attached article, join or discuss the project.
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Wow, I hope we can get all these articles created from the to-do list. -- JA10^{Talk • Contribs} 02:52, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

I am thinking about joining this project. I think it could benefit from my amazing GA writing skills.--trey 02:56, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

That's fine. By the way, I'm sorry about all the bad blood between us. I have lots of anger issues and may sometimes see something in a different point of view. -- JA10^{Talk • Contribs} 03:48, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Up for deletion

Guys, Allentown, PA in popular culture is up for deletion. Please see the notice on the article page for link to chime in with your feedback. Obviously, please oppose deletion. Alphageekpa 18:22, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't know, maybe they're right, maybe the material contained in the Allentown article works. -- JA10 Talk • Contribs 15:25, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Hey guys, I do not know really how to do this, or if im in the correct location. But they told me to come to the talk section in regards to my site being deleted. I added www.lhshurricanes.org to Liberty's external links section and it always gets deleted. I looked at the guidlines and I do not understand why it is being deleted still. Anyone with some information would be appreciated. Thank you. Talk —Preceding comment was added at 02:43, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lehigh Valley Definition

I recently posted comments on the Lehigh Valley Talk page regarding the opening paragraph of the Lehigh Valley article which defines the Lehigh Valley as the A-B-E metro. I can find no official sources to support this definition and believe it to be incorrect. My POV is that the L.V. is historically defined as Lehigh-Northampton counties plus the Phillipsburg area and that A-B-E metro is a relatively recent development that includes areas that are not part of the Lehigh Valley (Carbon, Bucks, Berks, and sections of Warren outside the P-burg area). The U.S. Census Bureau does not mention Lehigh Valley in association with the metro area, and numerous regional agencies, such as LV Economic Development Corp., LV Visitors & Convention Bureau, and LV Planning Commission, limit their definitions to Lehigh-Northampton. The only exception I've found is Great LV Chamber of Commerce, which includes P-burg but no other areas outside Lehigh-Northampton. A search of the Internet reveals that most .gov and .org hits for "lehigh valley" and "allentown-bethlehem-easton-pa-nj" together are Wikipedia-related; that is, other sites are mirroring WP's un-supported definition. I have several solutions in mind to remedy the problem, but would like feedback before moving ahead. Thanks. Allreet (talk) 17:35, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

My understanding has always been that the "Lehigh Valley" is A-B-E (or, Lehigh and Northampton County). I see that Warren County, New Jersey has made it's way into the Lehigh Valley "wiki" articles as well. In The Morning Call's "Welcome to the Lehigh Valley", they state "The Greater Lehigh Valley encompasses two counties, Lehigh and Northampton, that together total more than 730 square miles. In that area, we have farms, burgeoning suburbs and cities. We are bordered by the Blue Mountains to the North, the Lehigh Mountain Range to the South, the Delaware River East and rolling farm lands lead us West." No mention of New Jersey. The Lehigh Valley is a nice place, and I'm all for empire-building, so let's find ourselves a source! <grin> Alphageekpa (talk) 19:03, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the speedy and considerate reply. We share the same basic understanding. The picture is admittedly murky because Lehigh Valley is an informal term, defined by usage and not by the government or some other authority. Fortunately, the trail is long. The earliest source I've found is an 1860 history that includes Lehigh, Northampton, A-B-E and also the Phillipsburg area. To my knowledge, this hasn't changed, and modern sources bear that out (though most ignore P-burg). I also haven't found anything that supports the position that the Valley and MSA are the same. I would appreciate hearing from others before making changes. Meanwhile, I've posted several definitions of the Lehigh Valley on my User page, from what seem to be the latest, most reliable sources on the subject. Allreet (talk) 23:11, 13 May 2008 (UTC)