Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Gymnastics

[edit] Thoughts

A few things:

First, props to starting this, it's long overdue.
I object to including cheerleading in this, especially after looking at the many articles in the cheerleading category that are irrelevant to gymnastics, and more relevant to the sports project [1]. I'm willing to look past that though, esp. since the creator appears to be a one.
I've removed Mass games from the project, as it is a performing-arts exhibition, and is way too much of a stretch to justify including in the gymnastics category. I'd like to try to stick with the fundamentals of the sport, and the articles directly related to it, as many need all the attention they can get before they're deleted. I also removed Equestrian vaulting, because it's already in the Equestrian project and, in all practicality, would detract from progress on gymnastics articles.
There are a lot of organizational inconsistencies, for example, the Artistic gymnastics category [2] only lists a few athletes, mostly women. If we have other categories listing all gymnasts, why have it at all?

Also, why doesn't the Gymnast article exist in a list format/why isn't the title "List of gymnasts"? Doesn't this overlap with the one above?

The tone and the majority of pictures in the article portray gymnastics as a female sport for young children. Considering it's one of the most difficult sports, and men play a large role, I think we should try to get as many quality photos to include as possible. More of men (in the men's section) couldn't hut either.
That's all for now, feel free to respond, but let's work on getting a lot more users involved (hopefully some men as well), and improving the two main articles: Artistic gymnastics, and gymnastics. Thanks. DMCer (talk) 05:25, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I'd also like to say hello. You have some great ideas! I'm glad this project exists.

I agree that I don't think cheerleading should be included in this. At most, I think the scope of the project should be the disciplines recognized by the FIG, with artistic and rhythmic taking top priority.

We definitely need to work on getting photos. Most of the ones uploaded to articles here are deleted, and there really doesn't seem to be a way to get free use ones. How to deal with this...I do not know.

More fact checking/objectivity on gymnasts' pages. A number of the pages have statements such as "a lot of fans thought Gymnast X should have won the gold." I think talking about official score protests and reactions is fine (ie the 2004 incident where the crowd booed about Alexei Nemov's HB score for 15 minutes, or the cases where gymnasts have taken their medals off to protest) but some of the other remarks toe the line of POV. Getting references and footnotes for some articles would be swell too. DanielEng (talk) 05:57, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

First, If you don't think Cheerleading is relevant, go ahead and remove it. Its not a big deal.

Photos are an issue. I've searched commons, and found pretty much the same images, and nothing special. If anyone is going to a meet, take lots of pictures, I'm sure some of them will be okay.

There are several requested articles, if anyone has specific knowledge or just cares to try and tackle them, that would be great.

Maddie ^talk 17:49, 26 December 2007 (UTC)