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[edit] Deletion of Australian Institute of Applied Sciences

The following discussion is archived. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
User has been Blocked for Disruptive editing--Hu12 (talk) 04:52, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

User Hu12 deleted an article (speedy deletion) on the Australian Institute of Applied Sciences. I request that this article be re-instated and protected against vandalism. The reason for the deletion was 02:44, 25 April 2008 Hu12 (Talk | contribs) deleted "Australian Institute of Applied Sciences" ‎ (G11: Blatant advertising) ... As AIAS is a college registered in Australia it must be protected from deletion. --Hollowpointr (talk) 03:50, 25 April 2008 (UTC) Hu12 is now trying to edit this page in order for this complaint to not be seen by the WikiProject Education. --Hollowpointr (talk) 04:11, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

This is just a Wikiproject and not the place to resolve complaints about an administrator and certainly not somewhere to seek "protection from deletion" (that's something that you won't find anywhere on Wikipedia). If you have a complaint about an administrator, you should calmly approach the administrator concerned and discuss it with them and if you still have complaints, then you would take it to WP:ANI but there's nothing really that this project can do. FWIW, I agree with Hu12 that the article was very spamish. It was also a copyright violation from here and thus unacceptable for Wikipedia. Sarah 04:38, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

COPYRIGHT VIOLATION???? THE ARTICLE WAS 'WRITTEN' BY THEM!!!! I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WORKS... IS IT JUST THE ADMINS WHO CAN HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY? IF YOU DELETE THAT ARTICLE SPEEDILY , THEN WHY DON'T YOU DELETE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_College_of_Natural_Medicine AS IT IS EXACTLY THE SAME! --Hollowpointr (talk) 04:39, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, well, I'm afraid that is the point - it was written by them and they own the copyright to the text not you. Therefore you cannot post it to Wikipedia as you are not the copyright owner and cannot legally license it under the GFDL, a requirement for submissions to Wikipedia. It is not suitable for us anyway as it is not written in an encyclopedic tone but in these sorts of cases, a copyright holder must contact us via email to WP:OTRS to state that they wish to donate their material to Wikipedia and confirm that they understand that under the GFDL license that we use, their material can be reused by anyone for any purpose including commercially. But as I said, this particular material was not suitable for Wikipedia because it reads like an ad and has a very unencyclopedic, promotional tone. And no, it is not only admins who can have a say on Wikipedia - you seem to have had plenty to say here today. Sarah 05:20, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Articles for Deletion: two schools

Resolved.

Wahroonga Public School at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wahroonga Public School (2007-10-31 – 2007-11-06) Deleted

located in Wahroonga, New South Wales

Brunswick South Primary School at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brunswick South Primary School (2nd nomination) (2007-10-31 – 2007-11-06) No consensus

located in Brunswick, East Victoria
--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
added 2nd --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 10:00, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
updated --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 10:15, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Collaboration

Hmm... I might as well pitch this one here. Would Percy Henn count to be included as a collaboration here? Auroranorth (sign) 10:38, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, he was headmaster/teacher in an Australian school. Twenty Years 11:14, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletion: Ballarat Associated Schools

Ballarat Associated Schools (via WP:PROD) a group of six independent schools in Ballarat, Victoria, Australia

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 10:16, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Importance Rating

I realise that there may be a great deal of subjectivity in rating articles for importance, and my judgment may be slightly biased, but certain schools, such as Newington College, have High importance rating, and others, such as Fort Street High School have Mid-Importance rating. Now, I may be more than a little biased here, but it would seem to me, that as the first government school established in Australia - as well as generally the most well-known (if anyone remembers reading something like that in a newspaper... because I just know I did, I know it, I just can't quite remember where... I need to find that article, it says something about the choices made on selective high school application forms), which spawned the likes of Sir John Kerr, who became a Governor-General, several High Court Judges, and numerous scientific contrbutors such as Douglas Mawson - Fort Street High Would receive a rating of High or even (though less likely) Top? I mean, I know that I and extremely POV on this topic but it seems pretty ridiculous that a school which I only know of because we had a chess match with them during the NSWJCL tournament. Sorry about the long post, but I feel that this is an important issue. Jame§ugrono 13:15, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I think you may be referring to the assessments by WikiProject Schools. I think High (possibly Top) is appropriate. I must admit to never having heard of Fort or Newington before wiki. The best course of action is to contact them directly at their assessment page WP:SCH/A leaving a note on the talk page. Thanks Twenty Years 13:37, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
I think I might have been referring to those assessments too. Jame§ugrono 08:46, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Have left a note at the talk page, i think the article is probably Top, but will accept High. Thanks. Twenty Years 10:58, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infoboxes

Do you think its worthwhile adding links to the two Aust infobox templates (Template:Infobox Aust school for Public schools, and Template:Infobox Aust school private for Private schools) under guidelines or something?? I've noticed that many Aust school articles are using the wrong infoboxes and thought it might help in guiding people to the right place and therefore achieveing some uniformity. Loopla (talk) 04:25, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Government_schools_in_New_South_Wales has been noticed and is being discussed at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Australian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board - cheers SatuSuro 00:53, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Watchlist

I've created a watchlist from the category Education in Australia. You can track changes to the pages here. Recurring dreams (talk) 12:25, 19 May 2008 (UTC)