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Contents 1 Mathematics grading 2 Biography of Rachel Adler 3 supported? 4 Mordechai Vanunu FAR 5 Request for assistance 6 Bill Gammage 7 Chemists 8 Who Are You Walter Anderson? 9 Biography of Arnold I Dumey 10 Biography of Edward J. Steele 11 Scientific Lineage 12 converting metrics in scientific articles 13 notability question 14 Science writer = scientist? 15 Merge Fred Griffith with Frederick Griffith 16 Afd reporting difficulties 17 Scholars and academics 18 Alice Cunningham Fletcher 19 Notability for scholars: Help, please 20 Ashmole 21 W S Bruce 22 John Bowlby 23 Pamela C. Rasmussen 24 Ravindra Khattree, statistician 25 Copyright violation on Harold Alden?

[edit] Mathematics grading

Folks might like to have a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics/Wikipedia 1.0#Mathematicians we've graded what we consider the me the top 150 mathematicians. Importance ratings are probably on the low side, as they are graded comparitly with each other. Most of these don't as yet have a rating tag on them. --Salix alba (talk) 21:36, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Awesome, this will help us tag our templates, thanks for sharing! --plange 16:40, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Biography of Rachel Adler

This individual's notability comes from her work as a Jewish feminist theologian; although she is a university professor, so far as I know she has relatively little notability as an academic and none as a scientist. Why the assignment here? Best, --Shirahadasha 18:08, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] supported?

What is the meaning of "supported" in the wording supported by the Science and academic workgroup in the template? Is it intended to mean that the inclusion of the bio is supported by the group, or that the bio comes under the range of interests in the group? I ask because of WP for deletion/Largest Colleges in Texas. DGG 04:23, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mordechai Vanunu FAR

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[edit] Request for assistance

I would appreciate some help on the William Sears (physician) article. Dr. Sears is obviously notable, has many books out, and appears on many television shows. However, I have not been having any luck finding any reliable source biographies. Nearly every biography I've found of him uses what is obviously verbatim self-written copy. I haven't even been able to verify that he's genuinely an Associate Clinical Professor at UC Irvine, since his name doesn't show up anywhere on their website (that I can find). Of course, he may just be retired. Anyway, I could use assistance to help check his credentials. Thanks, Elonka 05:47, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bill Gammage

I have done some work on this page. Is it possible for someone to look at it and make suggestions about what is missing/needs to be changed/needs improvement? There is a hint of a connection with Manning Clark, but I could only find one reference that said he had been taught by Manning and Dymphna, but could find no source. Stellar 18:25, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chemists

I did some changes to the noble laureats from 1901 to 1930 and came across Alfred Nobel, Ascanio Sobrero and Théophile-Jules Pelouze. The statment that they meet in Torino under Pelouze supervision must be wrong, because neither Nobel nor Pelouze ever studied in Torino. They meet in Paris only for relative short time during the world tour of Nobel from 1850 to 1852. This after Sobrero comming from Liebig already been apointed as professor in Torino. This means that the biography inormations of all this chemists must be aligned to one fitting story! I will try my best to find some sources, but I already found one stating that : we no not know much about the time of Nobel in Paris.--Stone 12:58, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Who Are You Walter Anderson?

Is his the same walter Anderson from Saybrook Graduate School And Research Center? There is an external link on the disambiguation Walter Anderson, should it be replaced with a link to this article, or should the latter be add independently? trespassers william 14:37, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Biography of Arnold I Dumey

You need to get your facts straight. Arnold Dumey never worked for IBM. Around our house, he used to call them "Itty Bitty Machines", ironically speaking of course, since in the 50's their machines were gigantic. The hash coding reference is, I believe, correct, but he never followed up on it, and others who did work for IBM continued along the path he laid out.

He did not invent the postal sorter, but did write the bar code it needed to deliver the mail, a code we still see every day on our letters and packages. As is well documented, he was a cryptographer during WWII, working under the Freidmans at Arlington Hall on the German codes. After the war, he stayed in the army until 1952, and during that time took delivery of the very first comercially produced computer for his department.

In 1952, he retired from active duty and we moved to Long Island, where he went to work for his friend Jack Potter, at Potter Instrument. He left after a few years and went out on his own as a consultant. He counted trees and figured out paper pulp yield for Time/Life in east Texas, worked on the post office project, and also did an interesting job for the League of New York Theatres in the early 60's. They wanted to set up a ticket by phone system using the newly introduced Diner's Club credit card and the first generation of comercially available computers. Thus was born the first ticket by phone-credit card payment system ever! He was also a great raconteur, and some of his stories are on the web.

DivaG202 18:38, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Biography of Edward J. Steele

I stumbled across the biography of Ted Steele yesterday and found it written like an essay and unsourced. A google search turned up some information which I added and I sourced some of the other information. I tagged the article as an essay like. I was wondering if someone could have a look at the article and offer me some suggestions to improve the article. Jack Merridew has tagged it as a COI, although I don't actually have any interest in Steele and the only connection would be that my boss was taught by him as an undergrad (which i mentioned on the talk page). I think Jack Merridew's tagging may be due to an edit dispute we had recently, but I really would like to improve my writing skills. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. R:128.40.76.3 14:38, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scientific Lineage

What does everybody think about adding a scientific lineage (for doctoral advisor or equivelent)? In science this is a pretty big deal (see Neurotree or Mathematics Lineage Project). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JShenk (talk • contribs) 01:55, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

[edit] converting metrics in scientific articles

I'm seeking consensus at MOSNUM talk for a change in the wording to allow contributors, by consensus only, to use unconverted metrics in scientific articles. Your opinions are invited. Tony 15:06, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] notability question

I have a question regarding notability criteria for a particular scholar/scientist to have an article about them in Wikipedia. Can anyone comment on what kind of benchmarks we should be shooting for here?

I saw a number of wikipedia entries for scientists that, to me at least, do not appear to meet the notability standard. For example, is it sufficient if the person in question holds a tenured appointment at a good university, has published a fair number of papers (say 30-40), and has given a number of talks at good conferences? These items appear to apply to the majority of the people currently having tenured academic appointments at U.S. universities. But is this sufficient for having a wikipedia article about a person? I somehow feel that considerably more should be required....

I should say that I am a professional mathematician myself, so I would particularly like to hear opinions related to exact/experimental sciences and mathematics. Regards, Nsk92 07:06, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Science writer = scientist?

I've noticed that the biographies of science writers (e.g. Dava Sobel) are put into the category of scientist (or in the scientist stub category). I find this odd, since many of the best science writers, while scientifically educated, are not scientists. Should there not be a category for science writers instead? I don't know the reasoning for this, hence my question. Michael Daly 22:41, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

There is a category for Category:Science journalists and Category:Science writers; they are within Category:Science occupations. --Lquilter (talk) 00:04, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge Fred Griffith with Frederick Griffith

If there's anyone out there with a little time to Merge Fred Griffith into Frederick Griffith, I think it would be a good move. I don't have the time to do it, but these two articles continue to coexist and I wanted to see if someone was up for it... Isoxyl 02:57, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Afd reporting difficulties

Hi, I found this project via the banner on Donald Sinclair (veterinary surgeon). Someone has proposed the article for deletion along with that of his brother Brian Sinclair who is not part of the project. I have tried to add the Afd entry on the projects afd page but it doesn't work - the link to 'edit this page' fails because their is no section 1. I then added the entry under people but it doesn't seem to resolve. The proposer appears to have marked both articles with a single Afd under BS. The Afd is here Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Brian_Sinclair. Perhaps someone who knows more about the proceedures (an Admin.?) than me can sought this out ? I've posted on Admin. Noticebord - Incidents [1] -- Daytona2 18:42, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scholars and academics

Hi all -- Johnbod made a proposal for Category:Journalism academics that I think would work well for Category:Academics and Category:Scholars: Combine the two into Category:Scholars and academics; the subject tree for each of those two could also be combined into Category:Scholars and academics. If folks have thoughts or considerations, please chime in at Category talk:Academics. (Note: the new tree should crosslink with the various scientist fields in helpful ways but shouldn't otherwise affect them; it should just affect the two trees Scholars and Academics. For more on the background, see links at Category talk:Journalism academics and Category talk:Scholars by subject. Cheers, Lquilter (talk) 00:07, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alice Cunningham Fletcher

There's a problem with the biographical information in this article. Please see Talk:Alice Cunningham Fletcher. —Viriditas | Talk 03:33, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notability for scholars: Help, please

I would appreciate some input at Talk:Arno Tausch. This is an article that came to my attention, the subject of which is clearly a successful researcher in his field, but I don't see that he satisfies WP:N. I have not previously discussed this particular point of policy, and would like to know if I am off-base here. Thanks, --BlueMoonlet (t/c) 02:54, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ashmole

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[edit] W S Bruce

The article William Speirs Bruce has the appearance of an abandoned project, since it deals only with the early years of Bruce's life and says nothing at all about his expeditions or his achievements. It's really a stub at the moment. Is anyone intending to develop it further? Brianboulton (talk) 18:33, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] John Bowlby

There are some substantial disagreements on this page and it would be very helpful if someone, particularly if there was someone knowledgeable on the subject, could come and give another view. Thanks. Fainites ^barley 17:42, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pamela C. Rasmussen

I’m try to work up this article to at least GA. Since biography is a new departure for me, previous GA/FAs all being for birds, I’d welcome any comments for improvement on its talk page Jimfbleak (talk) 08:29, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ravindra Khattree, statistician

Anyone here know about this chap? (Worth bothering with? Have I been too harsh on his discussion page?) -- Hoary (talk) 00:16, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright violation on Harold Alden?

on Talk:Harold_Alden190.21.249.40 (talk) 02:54, 23 May 2008 (UTC)