Talk:Whitewashing

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User:StanZegel and Drboisclair are both stalkers that are reverting my contributions on wiki. They, along with other self-identified Lutherans are engaged in whitewashing and censoring here and On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies and everywhere else that scholarly research exposes their coreligionists connection to the history of antisemitism. If anyone knows how wiki attempts to control these fully documented rogue editors, please let me know.Doright 05:18, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

This statement is patently slanderous and without foundation, and it should be deleted at once. drboisclair 19:03, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Without foundation? How about the foundation provided by Dr Robert Michael [[1]] that User:StanZegel and Drboisclair deleted? It said: "Luther scholars who defend, censor, or try to tone down his views on the Jews, ignore the murderous implications of Luther's antisemitism. Like the Nazis, Luther mythologized the Jews as completely evil: they should not be treated as humans and should be cast out of Germany. They could be saved if they converted to Christianity, but their demonic hostility to Christian society makes this inconceivable. There was a strong parallel between Luther's ideas and feelings about Jews and Judaism and the essentially anti-Jewish Weltanschauung of most German Lutherans throughout the Holocaust." Reference - Abstract of Michael, Robert. "Luther, Luther Scholars and the Jews." Encounter 46 (1985) no. 4:339-356 in Annotated Bibliography of Antisemitism (BAS) [Database Online] Jerusalem: The Vidal Sassoon International Center for the Study of Antisemitism, The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, SYSNO [0016087]. Doright 10:12, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The carefully chosen instance of whitewashing

The intrusion of this [2] alleged instance of whitewashing is not factual or supported in sources outside of Wikipedia. The editor adding this intrudes his POV into this article, which is contrary to principles of WP:NPOV and WP:OR drboisclair 19:09, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Luther scholars who defend, censor, or try to tone down Luther's views on the Jews whitewash his antisemitism

Your claim: "Not factual or supported by sources outside of Wikipedia." Well, how about this source? Abstract of Michael, Robert. "Luther, Luther Scholars and the Jews." Encounter 46 (1985) no. 4:339-356 in Annotated Bibliography of Antisemitism (BAS) [Database Online] Jerusalem: The Vidal Sassoon International Center for the Study of Antisemitism, The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, SYSNO [0016087]. It says: "Luther scholars who defend, censor, or try to tone down his views on the Jews, ignore the murderous implications of Luther's antisemitism. Like the Nazis, Luther mythologized the Jews as completely evil: they should not be treated as humans and should be cast out of Germany. They could be saved if they converted to Christianity, but their demonic hostility to Christian society makes this inconceivable. There was a strong parallel between Luther's ideas and feelings about Jews and Judaism and the essentially anti-Jewish Weltanschauung of most German Lutherans throughout the Holocaust."Doright 10:12, 4 February 2006 (UTC)