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Woah - an article written entirely by anonymous users! *impressed* Just a few comments: should this article be moved to white tiger, following Wikipedia naming guidelines? Also, the article needs proper categorization and better formatting, so I'm putting up a stub warning. But seriously, awesome jobs - you guys should sign up! Cheers, Gaurav 19:49, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)


"The beautiful white specimen shown at the top of this page displays some evidence of breeding depression in having crossed eyes."

Uhh, what specimen? >.> I don't see anything only nacked sexy ladies.

nor do i. is the text copied from somewhere?? Xah Lee 07:18, 2005 Apr 30 (UTC)

Does anyone have information on the "Pure White Tiger"? It's origination?

165.139.228.115 17:44, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Korean version

I just restored the deleted material but I don't seem to have the correct Korean fonts on this computer. Can someone put them back from here. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 15:02, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

The bengal tiger has the same things to face as a tiger.

[edit] Question to you people.

Are you all studying the white tiger? If so...you can google white tiger. Duh.-.-

Uhh, maybe not, we just want our articlesto look good for people who are. Utube video was cute!

THE WHITE TIGER HAS BEEN INBRED BY CAPITALIST PIGS BEYOND ALL HOPE. MOST ARE BORN WITH DEFECTS AND NEVER REACH ADULTHOOD. There's a reason why you don't reproduce with your own family, and the only way to ensure more cubs, zoos inbreed them constantly. This cruelty needs to stop and I feel this wiki page is part of the problem, not even taking the issue seriously. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.231.8.69 (talk) 21:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] love

I absolutly love white tigers, I'm not sure if i would like to do away with them as other web sites have said. I still think it's good we're having tigers produced.. but it's so awful about inbreeding. I'm so against that. But, do the tigers really know that they are doing that with their daughter/father or so. I know one of my friends has 5 dogs.. and one of the dogs had another dog with it's daughter. And, it came out fine. I don't like how they keep going on and on though

i absolutly love white tigers. tecnically they arent even their own spicies...but they should be!! AngelGirl2107 18:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)AngelGirl2107

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[edit] Genes "switched off"

I think that stating that a white tiger simply has orange genes that are "switched off" is more accurate than simply stating that a white gene is non-exsistant. It is my knowledge that this is true and far more informative as far as biology and genetics goes. Perhaps a link to the page on genes in animals would be a nice addition as well. Anyone agree? --Catmoongirl 07:17, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Extent of Population?

Shouldn't the extent of where they reside be listed? Drakonis 15:48, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] article

If by extent of population you mean geographic range that is covered under "Historical Records". Why have the graphic showing the endangered status of the Bengal tiger when white tigers are not synonymous with Bengal tigers? All of the portions of the article dealing with Chediak-Hegashi Syndrome, anaesthesia and tryosinase, crossed eyes and the visual pathway abnormality, Siamese cats, Himilayan rabbits and albino ferrets, and the mutated form of tryosinase which makes the fur of white tigers and Siamese cats grow darker in reaction to cold (tryosinase is not mentioned in the article in this connection, but it should be. It is in the Siamese cat wikipedia article.) should be moved from the "Inbreeding Depression" category to the section dealing with genetics and albinism. White tigers do not have Chediak-Hegashi Syndrome. Mohini was tested for it in 1960 and this is discussed in the article "The White Tiger Enigma" which is included in the bibliographical section of the wikipedia article. It should be stressed that the catalogue of inbreeding related problems listed and attributed to K.S. Sankhala were reported in pure-Bengal white tigers, not hybrids. Sankhala was the director of the New Delhi Zoo and his only experience was with pure-Bengal white tigers. He wrote about this in his book "Tiger!". There is only one case of a white tiger having central retinal degeneration and this may have had nothing to do with inbreeding or genetics. There is a rumor which has been widely circulated on the internet that white tigers have an 80% infant mortality rate. This is completely false. My apologies to Drakonis I did'nt mean to put this under his heading, but I hope I was able to answer his question.

[edit] Truth on White Tigers

Question: Why is this article full of the misconception that this "species" is endangered? It's not a species. It's a genetic mutation promulgated by zoos via inbreeding. Technically this "species" is severely over-populated and will be until it no longer exists.

Answer: Nowhere does the article state that white tigers are a species or that they are endangered. The graphic refers to the Bengal tiger as endangered. The article never claims that white tigers are a species, much less an endangered species. White tigers are tigers and tigers are an endangered species. In India white tigers are considered part of the culture and national treasures. In India white tigers are a subpopulation of the endangered Bengal tiger.

[edit] Conservation Value

Okay, I took out some of the biased language (I replaced "freaks with no conservation value" with "anomalies that do not have the same conservation value," etc.) but we really need some sources on the idea that white tigers do not have any conservation value. Common sense seems to tell me that a general wild tiger population will have a few white tigers in it, just like human populations have a few purple-eyed humans in them, and I can see why breeding a pretty but not representative form of the animal wouldn't be the best conservation strategy, but can anyone back it up with studies or articles or quotes from the experts?12.144.50.194 (talk) 22:18, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes Ron Tilson of the Minnesota Zoo and Catherine Latinen who was with the Detroit Zoo. They're experts, but it seems to be the opinion of just about everybody that white tigers have no value to conservation. Also John Seidensticker of the National Zoo. Here's another one: Karanth, K. Ullas, The Way of the Tiger, Voyager Press Inc. 2001. pg. 16 "White tigers are genetic mutants derived by repeatedly crossbreeding the progeny derived from a single wild caught ancestor (he's wrong about that). While white tigers are undoubtedly cute oddities, they have little conservation value." I just found this in "The Year Of The Tiger" pg. 82 "but geneticists consider such animals' bloodlines useless for maintaining healthy captive populations of distinct subspecies." There are no white tigers in wild populations. I don't think there are any purple eyed humans. Thank you for the suggestions.

patien sucks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.128.186.201 (talk) 20:24, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Family trees

I think this article would benefit from some family trees. From what I understand, Mohan was bred with his daughter Radha and then he was bred with the product of that union, granddaughter-daughter Sukeshi to produce tigers who were simutaneously his children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren. Some of these were bred in lines issuing from Radha's full-sisters, so there are tigers with many, many more lines from him. Charles 21:45, 15 May 2008 (UTC)