Talk:White Serbs

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White Serbia never exited because the name serbia came from the ottaman rule on Ragska around 1300AD when the Ottaman Conqured Ragska and renamed the Country To Servia meaning turks servants because the turks ruled the Servs for 500 years and the Servs became their Servants, they were later renamed to Serbia for reasons i dont know. --Marbus2 5 13:37, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

That is ridiculous. It is proven that name of the Serbs have nothing to do with Latin name "servant". Name of the Serbs is of Sarmatian origin and it is first recorded in Sarmatia Asiatica where Latin influence did not existed. See map: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1729.jpg Here is also Euratlas map from AD 500 showing location of Serbs (Sorabi) in western Poland (white Serbia in that time): http://www.euratlas.com/big/big0500.htm So, check some sources before posting ridiculous comments, ok? PANONIAN (talk) 14:28, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Some details are so visibly absent from the picture

The history of Croats and Serbs is parallel throughout so many ages that it is quite hard to defend their difference. If this was a crime story, all the readers would be by now chanting: "Mr. S. is the same person as Mr. C.!". Places and times closely match over span of over 1000 years and thousands of kilometers. Anyone would say, for descendants of totally unrelated peoples, they showed peculiar level of affinity for each other as well as similarity with each other. Either one group forced the other to follow, or one followed other because of some sort of long-term commitment or traditional relations, whatever the nature of it may had been.

I agree. THey maust be two tribes derived from one , or at very least 2 'cousin' tribes. YEt i;m sure both Serbs and Croats will adamantly profess that they are different

[edit] Is this article for real?

I am sorry to ask, but there are several things which make me suspicious about this article. Just out of scientific curiosity could someone

• post the exact location of the map used to illustrate the article (http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/history_europe.html)? I really would like to see the original map as shown on the lib.utexas.edu server.
• find the page from "Byzantium's Balkan Frontier: A Political Study of the Northern Balkans, 900-1204" by Paul Stephenson where "White Serbs" or "White Serbia" are mentioned? The 2000 edition (which I have) is preferable, but the one from 2006 will also do just fine. I am asking because I cannot find anything about "White Serbia" there.

I also find it perplexing that the external links (the Illustrated History of Serbs website included) appear not to mention "White Serbs" or "White Serbia". Could someone help clarify the above points? --DefReality (talk) 21:21, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

White Serbia is a term which I spot in several Polish articles. E.g. Czupkiewicz locates "White Serbia" in territory of modern Greater Poland, because there are plethora of names such as "Serby" and similar in this area (IMHO, this does not prove nothing, those could be settlements of prisoners caught in Lusatia, but this is just my opinion) . Szopen (talk) 09:05, 3 April 2008 (UTC)