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West Palm Beach is a great city with alot of natural and man made history.

Can anyone add anything to the history of West Palm Beach, particularly who the mayors were?

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[edit] West Palm Beach Page Project

I'm thinking of redoing the this page in the same layout of the Boca Raton, Florida one. Before I do, I need to know, how do I put in pictures?

You'll need to upload them. But be careful of copyright issues. - Chris 14:54, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
I did the Boca pics and layout, for the most part. I'd be glad to help you here. It really was just a matter of 1: Shooting the photos, and 2: editing, editing, editing, the layout. If you check the history, you'll see that I spent about 10-15 edits on layout tweaks! It took the most work doing the transit section. ReignMan 21:14, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New page finished!

Okay, as you have seen, I completed the new WikiPage. Feel free to add to it and correct some of my horrible mistakes that Microsoft Word didn't pick up.

About the Rice Brothers. http://www.palmbeachpost.com/accent/content/accent/epaper/2005/11/12/a1d_john_rice_1112.html

[edit] Removed "Residents"

I removed the "Residents" section:

  • It was only a mention of the Rice brothers
  • ... and of John's death.

articl* There are quite a few of us WPB residents out there and, sadly, we all can't be mentioned. I'd also argue that they are not the only famous residents of the city.

- Chris 20:07, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

    • I would say that if someone has an article in Wikipedia, and has substantial ties to the community, they can be mentioned in the city article. Actually, I would prefer a stricter standard. I'm tired of seeing every retired foorball player, golfer and tennis player who has ever owned a home in a city being listed as famous residents. -- Dalbury(Talk) 20:16, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
      • Neither one has an article (the first is to a Broadway Actor from the 19th century). I somewhat agree with your point, however despite the Rice brothers' connection with the community, I'd vote no on their place in an encyclopedic article about the town. - Chris 20:30, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
        • Unfortunately, many other city articles have lists of famous residents whose only tie to the city often is just that one of their several residences is there. There's a lot of unencyclopedic boosterism in city articles. -- Dalbury(Talk) 20:57, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Skyline and Cityplace images needed!

We need some images for this article of the skyline and Cityplace!

Can't guarantee when, but I can get out and take some. Only thing: are there copyright issues just by taking those images? - Chris 22:35, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

The current picture of the 'skyline' isn't very accurate. It's from I-95 looking east. The proper way to get the skyline would be from Palm Beach looking east because the taller buildings are near the Intracoastal, not Clear Lake.

[edit] ATV Riders Banned D:

What does everyone think about the banning of ATVs in West Palm Beach. I live out in the acreage and it's one of the main reasons we came here a year ago was to ride the quads like our parents could back when. I think they should be legalized on the roads, and there shouldn't be this whole thing about being 16 to ride a quad above 90cc. Try putting a 15 year old on a 90 and he'll be cramped. Go over to the yamaha website and look at the 90, there's no way that kid is 12. Maybe 8 or 9. I ride a 350 and I'm 13 it fits me just great, my 250 was getting too cramped. You're able to drive a motorcycle when you turn 15 that has upto 1500cc and goes 200mph and still only be able to drive a 90cc quad that can go 20mph max with a 15 year old on it. I can see the whole thing about going fast but, just put a speed limit out for ATVs. A 250 can't go over 50 MAX. My 350 rancher can barely reach 45 on pavement. Unless you're talking like 700cc quads or 350cc 2-stroke screaming banshees that have like 50+ hp and can reach 80mph we can barely reach speed limit. We'll put the turn signals on our quads if you can give us license plates with our titles. Most quads have lights, not to mention brake lights. And they're probably safer in a collision seeing as we can quickly run off the side of the road where a car can't. Most of us that do choose to risk it and drive on the roads will stop for passing cars and horses. And we don't like riding on peoples property but it's our way of having a little fun. Some people have fast cars, some people have boats, and some have their golf. We have our quads, we pay your titles, and we have respect. We don't want to drive 2 hours to go to the only place in florida to ride free of trail systems at holeylands. We're getting tired and sick of it, anyone else have anything to say?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.11.109.208 (talk • contribs)

This is not a blog or a chat room. This page is for discussions about the content and format of the West Palm Beach article. Your question is not appropriate for this page. -- Donald Albury(Talk) 21:59, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Location of Styx

The Styx was the name of the community on Palm Beach Island housing the black workers for Flagler's hotels. Exactly what happended to it, and when, is not entirely clear. See [1], [2], [3] and [4]. -- Donald Albury 22:35, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Crime Rankings

I had to remove a line that claimed the city's ranking as 14th most dangerous was "biased" because unincorporated areas of the city weren't included, where the crime rate is lower. Unfortunately, an "unincorporated part of the city" is not the city by definition. For example, New Orleans doesn't get to count unincorporated Metairie to lower its crime rate. To show a lower crime rate, West Palm Beach would either have to actually lower the amount of crime or incorporate those low-crime unincorporated areas. Goeverywhere 16:17, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

PS -- The poll does indeed list many central cities with safe outlying areas -- Detroit, Baltimore, etc. But the same source lists the most dangerous metro areas and West Palm is not included. So I've compromised and made that notation in the article. Goeverywhere 16:23, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
No, sorry. I removed that again. The city is dangerous, so are the suburbs. Detroit has a few zip codes with high crime rates, and then they fall off. West Palm Beach has many zip codes in the entire area that are very high, but not counted, because the Morgan Quinto (AKA Bullshit) articles only include incorporated cities. It is not prudent to downplay the crime rates of a city that millions of people visit, the public needs to be informed.
The zip code rates are the best, and can be obtained at http://www.homefair.com/find_a_place/cityprofile/index.asp?cc=1 These list the crime rates of various zip codes, which are regular and geographically more square than cities. If I were to take some numbers, like Compton California, highest crime rate 276 (100 is average), and compare it to downtown WPB, which scores a 455, you'd see that it's almost double the violent crime rate of Compton! Now, if you think that's bad, here's the sad fact. The Compton number is about as high as it gets in all of California. Miami gets to 667. Detroit peaks at a mere 561, where as E St Louis reaches 908!
But now, lets look at the so called safe outlying areas: Detroit stays in the 3-400s. St. Louis drops fairly quick, and LA goes into 150s. WPB? Areas range from the 30s to the 500s. No other city I can find does this. In Miami, there's an area where a 667 borders a 48! Let's call Compton a bad area for a minute, how many areas in WPB and PBC are worse than Compton? Well, 33404, 33407, 33460, and 33405 at an incridible 575, higher than the worst in Detroit!!! And as for places that are more than double average? 33444, 33483, 33435, 33409, etc. So rethink that logic for a bit, then we'll talk. ReignMan 21:19, 16 October 2007 (UTC)


I think the crime table should be removed entirely. The national crime figures are wildly innacurate, according to the UCR the last time homicide rates were up at 6.8 was in 1997, and the rate for '05 was 5.6. 121.44.197.179 15:10, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I agree, because the cited source of the statistics is essentially "some web site", not any sort of well-known statistics authority. Eli lilly 01:46, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
The crime tables are here to stay. We've been adding them to every city. The numbers are directly from the FBI uniform crime reports, and the 2006 data shows there were 17 reported murders in West Palm Beach, which has a population of roughly 100,000... Do the math. Just because you don't agree with the numbers, doesn't make them untrue. And BTW, in 1997, your number is a little off... There were 30 murders reported with a total population of 79,246, making the total number about 32-34... Nice try though http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/Cius_97/97crime/97crime2.pdf ReignMan 04:18, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm talking about the national rates... the data here states the national homicide rate for 2005 was 5.6, not 6.9 as listed in the table. http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/data/table_01.html 121.44.197.179 13:04, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
The Areaconnect stats are based on stats of incorporated cities in the database only, the 5.6 is all areas, including unincorporated areas. 6.9 is average for an incorporated city. ReignMan 20:02, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Don't be a jackass with the "the crime tables are here to stay" B.S. . For starters, do you have permission to reproduce those here? Or do you think it's just OK to copy and paste them from some other website? And who is the "we" that has been "adding them to every city". When I look at the San Fransisco or New York City articles I see no such table and that leads me to believe that your focus on crime is inappropriate. Eli lilly 15:00, 20 October 2007 (UTC)