Talk:Welsh Corgi

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[edit] Tails

The article states "The tails of Pembrokes are NOT docked as some think."; however, the 3rd picture's caption states "The Pembroke Corgi's tail is often docked, and its ears are smaller." Clarification?

The tails of the dog have been docked for centuries, and today very few are born with tails. However, in the rare instances where a corgi is born with a tail (usually very short) it is almost always docked.Martin Heidegger 23:20, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Corgis are horrible dogs LoserBobafettH23 20:17, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree they are horribly and terribly cuteeeeee!!!!

[edit] corgwn pronunciation?

Anyone? Nklatt 14:09, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Corgŵn = /ˈkɔrguːn/, but the English plural is just corgis. Strad 05:58, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Descent

I have removed the statement that corgis are "believed to be descended from the Vallhund". Firstly, an encyclopedia article should stick to demonstrable facts, not just offer what is believed. Secondly, is there any genetic evidence that the two are related, or is this just breeder's folklore derived from the obvious physical similarities? If they really are related, how do we know that the exchange was in that direction – could the Vallhund not just as easily be descended from the Corgi?---- Richard New Forest (talk) 18:47, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

From 1925 to 1939, the two breeds were considered the same and interbred. So, it is true that they're probably going to be genetically similar, yes. But the popular and widely accepted theory (as the exact history is lost), Cardigans come from crooked-leg Teckel Dogs (relating to Dachshunds and Bassets) whereas the Pembroke comes from straight-legged Spitz types like the Vallhund. Not necessarily from the Vallhund itself. Cardigans came much earlier, around 1200 B.C. (with invading Celtic tribes), and the Pembroke arrived around 1100 A.D. (with Flemish Weavers), 2000 years later. There's still very distinct physical differences that make them the two types: When Pems have a tail, it's curly, and they have lighter more pointed muzzles, where Cardigans have deeper chests, bent legs, and heavier muzzles. Sources: [1] [2] [3] [4] KrypticKlaws 21:22, 10 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by KrypticKlaws (talk • contribs)