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Contents 1 post-WR career "bebop" vs "postbop" 2 Shorter's style of playing and composition 3 Discography 4 ...And he plays soprano too... 5 Bill Laswell

[edit] post-WR career "bebop" vs "postbop"

I can't think of anything in Wayne's post-Weather Report career that should be considered "bebop"-oriented, but at the same time "postbop" is also unsatisfying.

I'm not sure my version is much better, but it's perhaps more neutral. Bebop really stopped before the start of the sixties, and "postbop" is what? Ornette? Wynton Marsalis? The seventies needs expansion - VSOP, other work with Hancock etc. His wife was killed on TWA Flight 800, and I believe he is (like Hancock) a Buddhist. --  ajn (talk) 17:51, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

I'd take issue with the claim that bebop stopped at any point (it's still being played now), and "postbop" seems to be the wrong term for Shorter, as you say. His playing is surely bebop-influenced, though there are other influences, obviously, and I suppose there's room for disagreement over which if any is dominant. (I was brought up – in a jazz-listening sense – calling it "rebop", byt he way, which might have been meant to refer to the bebop-influenced music around the London scene in the early to mid seventies.)

Oh, I nearly fogot: I like your rewrite. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 13:15, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

I would definetely not define Wayne Shorter's music as bebop or postbop. I think "freebop" works the best to describe what he's been doing, although it is not a phrase as commonly heard. I'm not going to change anything right now, but just thought I should throw it out there. ----Birdtrain 22:41, 30 April 2007 (PST)

[edit] Shorter's style of playing and composition

An editor asserted that contrapuntal pedal points and complex harmonic relationships are not common in jazz. This is assumption that they are not common is POV. Has the editor heard the work of Monk, Parker, or Mingus (major figures that preceded Shorter)? Dogru144 21:47, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discography

"Live at the Fillmore East" was expanded to the full title, as denoted on the cover. It is easy to confuse the shortened version of this title with "At Fillmore: Live at the Fillmore East", on which the saxophonist is Steve Grossman, one month later. Dogru144 13:14, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ...And he plays soprano too...

Much appreciation to the authors and editors of this Wayne page. I learned several things about him I'd not got from reading the Footprints biography. As a soprano player I couldn't resist adding soprano to his instruments list, since that instument has been so important to his playing from WR to present. Hope there's no objection to that addition. Maybe I can find a few points about his soprano playing to add at a later date. Regards, Aeigner 05:21, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bill Laswell

Wayne Shorter contributed to a number of Bill Laswell projects, like Hallucination Engine.

207.212.254.114 (talk) 21:56, 25 January 2008 (UTC) Stowe Boyd