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There are several nouns not yet linked. Is this an oversight? --Wetman 02:30, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Who does it belong to? Which organizations fund it? David.Monniaux 13:32, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The Episcopal Diocese of Washington owns and funds the Cathedral Church of Saints Peter and Paul from its own fundraising pools, like any other Roman Catholic and Episcopal cathedral in the United States. --Gerald Farinas 13:50, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
That's what I thought (I know very well that the US government is not supposed to fund religions). Then, I think this should be noted in the article, because people unfamiliar with the US may get the false impression that this "National" cathedral is somewhat publicly funded. I added a sentence to that effect. David.Monniaux 15:01, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
For the record... Washington National Cathedral is operated by an organization called the Protestant Episcopal Cathedral Foundation, not the Episcopal Diocese of Washington D.C. It is funded entirely by private donations, gifts, bequests, memberships in the National Cathedral Association and proceeds from the Cathedral gift shops. 69.140.206.138 02:20, 9 December 2006 (UTC) a Washington National Cathedral Docent, 8 December 2006
WNC is supported by the National Cathedral Association, a non-profit organization to raise money for the Episcopal Churich in America. The government, however, did provide support for the early stages of building it. 71.231.91.187 14:17, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Amusing

Does anyone else find it amusing that this article about a single cathedral is almost as long as the article about the entire Church of England? Contrafool 03:27, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Televised Worldwide

Please stop saying that the 9/11 memorial was not televised worldwide, because of the Canadian service. I live in Canada and watched the Washington service on TV. (Besides which "televised worldwide" does not mean "televised in every country in the world.") - Cafemusique 02:02, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I go strictly by the fact that both services took place simultaneously. People in Canada saw "the largest single vigil ever seen" in the nation's capital on September 14, 2001. This is because both Washington and Ottawa are in the same time zones. SNIyer12 00:15, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Canadians have access to US media outlets and thus had access to watch (if they, like I, so chose) the Washington service. Despite that, if you persist in believing that a lack of coverage in one country means that an event was not "televised worldwide," then I would find it hard to believe that any event was televised worldwide, under that definition. - Cafemusique 7 July 2005 14:52 (UTC)
For Canadians, only the American media outlets broadcast the service at the National Cathedral. Canadian media outlets were tuned to one Parliament Hill--the largest single vigil there in the nation's capital, as Prime Minister Paul Martin put it when President George W. Bush made his visit to Canada in 2004. - SNIyer12 7 July 2005 20:26 (UTC)

[edit] Name of the site

Is it "Mount Saint Albans" or "Mount Saint Alban"? It is referred to both ways in the text. Al 13:13, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

I have "Mount Saint Alban" in one source. I'd be surprised if the Cathedral's official site does not mention it, and there should be plenty of other placename sources available. (SEWilco 17:47, 29 September 2005 (UTC))
Appears to be Mount Saint Alban. All of the "Saint Albans" I found on the site appear to be misspellings of "Saint Alban's". I'll fix. Al 18:04, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
Saint Albans is not a misspelling, it's an affectation that the Close institutions took to make the place seem more English and antiquated. It is an older form meant to distinguish between an entity dedicated to someone and something that belongs to someone. It is Mount Saint Alban, though.
Mt. Saint Alban is the location; St. Alban's School for Boys is one of the schools on the ground. Mangoe 02:58, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
I am not sure of the official location name but it certainly is St. Albans School not St. Alban's —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.143.178.230 (talk) 15:48, 25 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] it is a NATIONAL church

the corner stone was laid by Teddy Roosevelt who was NOT Episcopalian but Dutch Reformed

For the record, President Theodore Roosevelt was present and spoke at Washington National Cathedral's Foundation Stone service, September 29, 1907. He did not lay the Cathedral's Foundation stone. 69.140.206.138 02:20, 9 December 2006 (UTC) a Washington National Cathedral Docent, 8 December 2006

it was chartered by Congress

For the record, this misleading truth preys on a general lack of understanding that, at the time the Protestant Episcopal Cathedral Foundation was chartered, the U.S. Government, Congress and Executive, were functioning as the local government for Washington D.C. All non-profit or not-for-profit organizations founded during such a period required chartering through the U.S. Congress and a Presidential signature. 69.140.206.138 02:20, 9 December 2006 (UTC) a Washington National Cathedral Docent, 8 December 2006

Nonetheless, that still doesn't make the cathedral any more constitutional, technically - Congress was making laws respective of religions at the time, because they were among the organizations queuing up to charter. — Rickyrab | Talk 17:33, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
That being said, the Constitution may be to blame for this unconstitutionality: an amendment is supposed to cancel out or alter earlier parts of the Constitution. The core of the Constitution (that is, the Articles and Sections) mandated the foundation and running of Washington, DC. The First Amendment came later. — Rickyrab | Talk 17:37, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

the constitution doesn't say that the government can't fund religion but says that cant respect a specific one---WNC welcomes are faiths to worhsip

Admittedly. But charters, etc., are arguably respectings of specific religions. — Rickyrab | Talk 17:38, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

and btw the to the person below St. Alban's is not the same as WNC St. Alban's is a school on the grounds of WNC and there is a cathedral called St. Alban's in England

has it occured to anyone that the idea of a national cathedral in a country that prides itself on its seperation of state and religion is accepted and encouraged in its role as a quasi government operation? is there such a thing as a national mosque or temple? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Weeddude (talk • contribs) 18:51, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] caption makes no sense

"In addition, a memorial service for Harry Truman took place at National Cathedral, which foreign dignitaries attended because of the advanced age of his wife, Bess." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.122.141.9 (talk) 20:51, 1 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Darth Vadar

Some pictures & info. if needs be. [1]. I already know it is in the article. Thanks, CarpD 4/24/07

[edit] 83 years construction time

I've twice reverted an observation that the cathedral's 83 years construction time is similar to the human lifespan simply because it's not at all relevant to the topic of the article.