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[edit] Incorect terminology

the term 'warm-blooded', is scientificly out of date, and where possible should be removed from the article, i study biology as a HSC subject, and it is strictly stated in the sylabus that the term warm-blooded should not be used as it is incorrect, and does not correctly identify the type of system a nominated animal posseses, any arguments? p(Spicypeanut 11:11, 8 November 2007 (UTC))


Hiya Spicypeanut,

You are of course correct that "warm-blooded" is not a scientific term. It is however the best known and most widely used term in the english language. By placing the article here we make it easy for beginners, youngsters, and persons with no formal background to come and start the process of learning about thermoregulation. If we start out with something obscure like "poikilothermic" only people who already know about the subject will be able to find it. Precision is good, but in this situation accessability is important too.Ken McE (talk) 02:43, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] misplaced info?

i think the "temperature control in cold blooded animals" should be moved to the cold blooded article, and possibly be replaced with temperature control in warm blooded animals" which SHOULD just be a link to homeostasis if not thermoregulation

6pm(in aus atleast) july 24th 2007

[edit] Reasons for requesting rewrite

  1. The first two sections seem to repeat each other and need to be merged. The 2nd person perspective is probably not encylopedic, although others may disagree.
  2. The third section (In between cold and warm blooded) should probably be moved to a separate page accessible by both this page and the cold-blooded page
  3. The title should probably be modified, as should the title of cold-blooded. See Talk:Cold-blooded.
  4. Not sure what people think should be done about the warm vs cold-blooded sections in both articles... merge? keep seperate???

Hopefully someone with more zoological knowledge than I possess can definitively edit this... Thanks! --postglock 15:00, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rewritten

Hopefully this page and the cold blooded page will better complement one another now. Jura 08:33, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Well, it seems there's always the temptation to throw in the mix the terms "homeotherm" and "endotherm" as equivalents, which they aren't! "Homeotherm" refers to an organism capable of maintaining an internal temperature more or less constant independently from the environmental conditions whereas as "endotherm" organism is simply one that has an internal source of heat production. Although generally an endotherm is simultaneously a homeotherm, the two terms *are not* equivalent and so they should be kept in separate sections. The same is true for "poikilotherm" and "ectotherm".

C. L. Furlong --85.242.200.80 11:47, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Archaic

Warm blooded may not be the scientifically preferred discriptor but it is the most common term in normal usage. Archaic seems a very odd chice of words. Needs changing I think Alci12

It certainly seems odd that the page should be listed under its "archaic" name rather than something more formal with a redirect at warm-blooded. --ToobMug 10:54, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I took the "Archaic" remark to mean someone disaproved of it but did not quite want to move and redo the entire article. They are of course correct that it is the common or "low" english word and persons with advanced training in the field would avoid it as being quaint and imprecise. Ken McE (talk) 00:19, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

I was actually coming to recommend the same thing as postglock.

The entries for cold and warm blooded repeat themselves a lot, and i think it would be very helpful to write them together, especially considering, according to the entry on cold blooded, "Most creatures fit more in line with a graded spectrum from one extreme (cold-blooded) to another (warm-blooded)"

[edit] Remove redirect

Please please please, can the redirect be removed from Homeothermy to Warm-blooded? As has been noted, these terms are not synonomous. Also, I assume there is a redirect from Heterothermy to Cold-blooded? If so, that will need to be eliminated as well. Thanks. Tomwithanh 05:50, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Homoiothermy

The term homoiothermy redirects to this article, but there is no mention of the term anywhere in the body of the article. Either the term should be written into the article, or the redirect should be changed or eliminated. This becomes a bit more significant today because Archaeopteryx is today's featured article on the front page, and the article brief uses and links the word homoiothermy. —Stormraven (talk · contribs) 12:41, 29 August 2007 (UTC)