Talk:Wampanoag (tribe)

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[edit] redundant

"In 1600 the Wampanoag lived in southeastern Massachusetts and Rhode Island, as well as within a territory that encompassed current day Martha's Vineyard, Nantucket and the Elizabeth Islands." Naming the islands is redundant; all the islands listed are in southeastern Massachusetts, which is already listed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.68.134.1 (talk) 16:56, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Misc

Did the Wampanoag move? --Rj 17:01, Apr 14, 2004 (UTC)

Exactly to what extent are the Bushes descended from the Wampanoag? Everyking 06:11, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I'd like to know the answer to this question too. --Whimemsz 21:33, May 12, 2005 (UTC)

I felt that the wording "forcing the Wompanoag to convert" was too negative so I weakened it somewhat to reflect the wording in the "King Phillip's War" entry. Kyaa the Catlord 10:40, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

I'm curious - is "8" a character in the Wampanoag language, called "Wôpanâôt8âôk" in this page? I can't find any sources on this. --π! 05:00, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

I was curious, too, and found that in the modern orthography used for writing Wampanoag, an 8 is used to represent a long /u/ sound. I don't immediately have a great source for this, but here's a link from Google crediting this convention to Ken Hale and Jessie Little Doe Fermino[1]. Also, here's one of several papers I found that accept this as a character for writing Wampanoag: http://web.mit.edu/norvin/www/papers/WampanoagConjunct.pdf -Quintote 02:57, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Their Bible translation (the first into a native american language) used an "oo" symbol, presumably based on English spelling conventions, but ran the two "o"'s together so that the symbol looks like an infinity sign or an "8" turned on it's side. I'm not sure when the use of an upright "8" began. I would imagine fairly recently to allow the use of existing keyboards. It must be fairly unique for a numeral to be used in this way in an 'official' orthography, as opposed to just being used as a stand-in for typing etc. (cf. some of the symbols used in X-SAMPA to substitute for IPA symbols). Mongvras (talk) 05:21, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Also possibly of interest [[2]], and the resulting discussion, at [[3]]. I'll leave it to others to decide if any of this is reliable or even notable, certainly plenty of POV's. Mongvras (talk) 05:21, 5 December 2007 (UTC)