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Contents 1 Bit of Trivia 2 Congressional committees 3 No coinidence 4 "Test" or As I Call It: "Vandalism" 5 Isn't this funny?? 6 Why Fritz lost in 1984 7 Contradition 8 American Dad! 9 Moved here from article 10 Trivia= 10.1 Walter Mondale in popular culture

[edit] Bit of Trivia

Something I noticed immediately after the 2002 election - and have not seen anywhere (Though I am sure many others realized it also).

After the 2002 election - Mondale became the first person to lose a statewide election in all 50 states.

Not sure why this fact keeps getting removed. It's completely true though some seem to think it's negative information. Why not just remove the fact that he lost the 1984 election in a landslide? That's negative. Paco 07:24, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

The fact is true, but not unique to Mondale. One could write the same thing about Nader, Buchanan, Anderson, etc. --Appraiser 15:17, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Were Nader, Buchanan, and Anderson on all 50 states' ballots? I know Perot was...

He's the only major party candidate to do so in recent years. Paco 20:58, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

"Coincidentally, when he entered the Senate in 1964 he took over the seat of vice president Hubert Humphrey, another Norwegian-American." What a coincidence! Consecutive Scandinavians in Minnesota! 69.143.31.101 16:05, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Congressional committees

I added a sentence about subcommittees he chaired. Tooptoo 16:06, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No coinidence

Schissel said that it was not a coincidence that Mondale recontested his old Senate seat following the death of Senator Wellstone. He said it was not a coincidence because he is from that State and each State have two Senators. I think he is wrong in his reasoning why it is not a coincidence. Mondale was asked to replace Wellstone on the ballot at the urging of Wellstone's relatives. That is why it is not a coincidence and not because of him being from the state and it having two Senators. --The Shadow Treasurer 04:03, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

The Carter-Mondale administration is well-remembered as the most beleaguered period in the 20th century. Every American recalls the days of double-digit inflation, interest rates of 20 percent, double-digit unemployment and gas lines that stretched several city blocks. [1]

The "most beleagured period in the 20th century"? Give me a break. I am no fan of Carter and I didn't vote for him, but that writer from the Washington Times is a moron, or at least badly misinformed First of all, unemployment was not at a double-digit level during the Carter Administration, so right off the bat this person doesn't know what they were talking about. In fact, unemployment at one point under Reagan reached the highest level since the Great Depression, and it was certainly higher than it was under Carter, and even then it wasn't at a double-digit level. If you want to describe the "most beleagured" period in the twentieth century, I'd say that the Great Depression beats any other period by a mile. If this is the level of intellectual discourse that comes from the Washington Times, then I'd say that we can safely ignore that newspaper as a source of information. soulpatch

Hurrah! Let's hear it for well-reasoned rebuttal. American journalists do have a tendency for overstatement. Good job, soul. Stormwriter

I'm a great admirer of Ed Poor who posted this, but that paper is published by the Unification Church and is notorious for right-wing propaganda (as opposed to challenging conservatism). Ortolan88

David N. Bossie is the president of Citizens United and the former chief investigator for the House Committee on Government Reform and Oversight.

The Washington Times publishes columnists on its op/ed page whose views vary from the "unsigned" editorials. I reckon the paper "stands behind" its editorials but should not be held responsible for the opinions of its columnists. Perhaps their aim is to air a range of views.

If Bossie mentioned "double-digit" unemployment during a period in which it never exceeded 9.9%, then we can dismiss him as a reliable source of statistics. (It makes the "20% interest" thing suspect, too.)

Maybe I should write a short article on David Bossie, include that quote from his opinion piece, and compare his "factoids" with some more reliable info.

By the way, the reason I included the footnote thing -- [1] -- is precisely so that people like Soulpatch can check up on the references. If I were sure Bossie was right, I would have put the info directly into the article. I put it on the Talk page so it could be vetted -- as just happened. --Ed Poor

Okay, I started a David Bossie article. He sounds like a crank, and I'm (A) a bit embarrassed that I quoted him in the first place and (B) glad soulpatch backstopped me before I put Bossie's drivel in the Walter Mondale article -- I hate it when someone has to revert one of my edits, so I try to put in only useful stuff. --Ed Poor

Thanks, Ed. soulpatch

[edit] "Test" or As I Call It: "Vandalism"

User:128.253.117.70 deliberately added false material. How do I know? See [2]. - Ta bu shi da yu 22:38, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Isn't this funny??

Reagan died on 06/05/04; his opponent in the 1984 election died on 06/04/05. Georgia guy 23:37, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Note: To what opponent do you refer? Mondale is still alive.

[edit] Why Fritz lost in 1984

"Mr. Reagan will raise taxes and so will I. He won't tell you. I just did." That was the truth, and the truth is something no candidate can tell the American electorate. Too Old 03:38, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Shouldn't the fact that he chose a woman hurt his bid be mentioned? I know that was one of the most common reason given for him losing the election. He probably still would have lost anyways (despite Reagan being someone who shouldn't have been in office to begin with), but he wouldn't have lost so badly if a woman hadn't been his running mate. TJ Spyke 07:53, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Contradition

The article says he was a half-brother of Rev Lester Mondale, but gives them the same two parents, making them full brothers. - Nunh-huh 23:11, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Resolved by Foobaz. Thank you. (Children of Theodore Sigvaard MONDALE and Claribel Hope COWAN are: Walter Frederick ("Fritz") MONDALE was born 5 Jan 1928 in Ceylon, Minnesota. Children of Theodore Sigvaard MONDALE and Jessie Alice LARSON are: Robert Lester MONDALE was born 28 May 1904 in Walnut Grove, Gales Twp, Redwood, MN.)Ancestry World Tree Project. Retrieved on 2006-12-22.

[edit] American Dad!

I think the reference is interesting, but could we balance it off a little by saying it's unlikely? Not an uncited opinion that it's unlikely, but does anyone know of a quote where he condemns the possibility of Soviet subversion or something? CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 05:22, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moved here from article

[edit] Trivia=

• Former President Jimmy Carter and former Vice President Walter Mondale hold the record for the longest-living post-White House president and vice president in American history. They passed the record established by President John Adams and his vice-president Thomas Jefferson. As of May 23, 2006, Carter and Mondale have lived 25 years, 123 days since leaving office in 1981. That is a day longer than Adams and Jefferson (who both died on the same day, July 4, 1826).

• Mondale's codenames given by the Secret Service are "Cavalier" and "Dragon". As former Vice President he is enlisted to receive lifetime protection^[1].

• Of all the surviving former Vice Presidents, Mondale and Al Gore are the only Democrats. Remarkably, they were both their party's nominee for the presidency although had different experiences in their attempts to win the White House. Mondale had already been out of the vice presidency when he was nominated in 1984. Gore, in contrast, was still Vice President when he was nominated in 2000; although he won the popular vote, he narrowly lost the Electoral College.

• In 2002, the University of Minnesota Law School rechristened its building "Walter F. Mondale Hall." Ironically acceptance letters in 2005 (for the incoming class of 2008) were stamped with the newly issued Ronald Reagan Stamps.

• Despite his receiving only 13 electoral votes in 1984 elections, Mondale had more popular vote support than President George H. W. Bush in 1992 due to the three-way race in 1992.

• After his defeat in the 2002 Senate Election, Mondale became one of the few politicians to lose an election in all 50 states.

• Shortly after Mondale used the Wendy's advertising slogan "Where's the beef?", Wendy's pulled the commercial off the air over concerns that the public might perceive it was supporting one candidate over another.

[edit] Walter Mondale in popular culture

• In the HBO miniseries From the Earth to the Moon (miniseries), Mondale was played by John Slattery.
• Walter Mondale is mentioned in quotes in Bart vs. Australia (the US Navy's fictional laundry ship, the U.S.S. Walter Mondale), Lisa's First Word (in a newspaper headline) and Mr. Spritz Goes to Washington (implied to be a janitor at the US Capitol) episodes of The Simpsons. In Matt Groening's other series, Futurama, Amy Wong whispers in a 20th Century History lecture, "Boring. Let's hear about Walter Mondale already."
• Mondale's head also appeared in other Futurama's episode A Head in the Polls, where he resides in Museum of Head in the Presidential Room, but in ledge for "Presidential losers" (with Bob Dole, Ross Perot, Lyndon LaRouche and others)^[2].
• In the TV series Beverly Hills 90210, lead character and Minnesota native Brandon Walsh owned a car he named "Mondale."
• In 1998, comedian Dennis Miller depicted Mondale in an American Express commercial. Miller's quote: "Hey, do you know me? I ran for president in 1984. I got stomped like a narc at a biker rally."
• Jello Biafra jokingly suggests "Mondale" as the name for a heavy metal band on his 1987 spoken-word album, No More Cocoons.
• In the American Dad episode "The Best Christmas Story Never," Stan is taken back in time to the 1970s and alters the future so that John Hinckley, Jr. never attempts to assassinate Ronald Reagan. No longer appearing so strong to the public, Reagan loses the 1984 election and Mondale becomes President of the United States, surrendering the country to the Soviet Union 47 days into his presidency.
• In the fourth season of The O.C. Mondale is credited (along with his running mate Geraldine Ferraro) with uniting Sandy and Kirsten Cohen at Berkeley. Sandy's pessimistic pick up line: "Come and let me tell you why Walter Mondale and Geraldine Ferraro are going to lose the election."
• In the TV Series, Commander-In-Chief starring Geena Davis, Speaker of the House, Nathan Templeton, berates President Teddy Bridges, by telling him that Vice President Allen's Vice Presidency was making "Walter Mondale's...look active"
• In the movie Pretty in Pink his name is mentioned by Annie Potts who plays Iona in the movie.
• In the cult television show "Mystery Science Theater 3000", Walter Modale is referenced whenever an official looking automobile appears onscreen. i.e. "Walter Mondale arrives."