Talk:Vympel R-73

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Should we add Russian development variants info? See here: http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/r73.htm -- Adeptitus 21:40, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

I think, yes. But I aint sure what does the E suffix mean here? Should it be read as "Russian: Э" (which I "translate" as "Ae", common suffix for export developments and sometimes used for "high energy" domestic versions)? --jno 08:05, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

No, according to Yefim Gordon, the E stands for energovo'oroozhonnaya, "high-powered." It has a longer-burn motor that raises the weight to 110 kg and increases brochure range from 30 km to 40 km. ArgentLA 23:33, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I have a disagreement with the statement, "The R-73 is a highly maneuverable missile that in most respects is believed to be superior to the United States AIM-9M Sidewinder, a fact demonstrated by the reunified German Luftwaffe winning all dogfight engagements with their MiG-29/R-73 combine against the F-16/AIM-9M combination fielded by the USAF,". The problem is that the technical superiority of the R-73 was not determined by the dogfights, in which no missiles were launched (for obvious reasons). The technical advantages were determined from careful examination of the missile and test-firing the missile. Pmw2cc (talk) 22:06, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Half and half. The engineering stuff is no doubt deciphered from test fires and examination, but it is through exercises that the tactical consequences of (for example) the off-boresight seeker is verified under the complexity of real conditions (or as close to it as possible). When they started losing most of the fights, they decided to make new missiles. --Kazuaki Shimazaki (talk) 04:10, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

There's a lot of truth to what you said. The implications of the off-bore sight capability are made more obvious from simulated combat. I'll add that in. Pmw2cc (talk) 17:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)