Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Tammy Faye Messner

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was - kept

[edit] Tammy Faye

Tammy Faye Messner Absolutely Non-notable. Who is this person?

• Another apparently lost/orphaned VfD nom, as it doesn't appear to have ever been posted to the main page (based on improper format and lack of votes). Procedural/keep--notorious in the US (could use some cleanup, however--most of her notability pre-dates the 'surreal life' appearance). Niteowlneils 21:45, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)
• Keep. Notability obvious to any American over 26. The article needs cleanup but this is irrelevant to the question of deletion. More avid fans of 1980s American history may remember her better as Tammy Faye Bakker. - [[User:KeithTyler|Keith D. Tyler [flame]]] 22:04, Nov 24, 2004 (UTC)
• Strong keep but could use attention; agreeing with Niteowlneils and KeithTyler. Presumably all 69 900 Google hits for "Tammy Faye" refer to her. Best known by her given names alone or her previously married name of Tammy Faye Bakker, which rightly redirects here. (And I just added a redirect from Tammy Faye.) Samaritan 22:08, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)
• Keep, obviously. [[User:GRider|GRider\^talk]] 22:28, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)
• Keep. She's quite well known; didn't Zappa sing about her & her the husband? Ah yes; in the track "Jesus Thinks You're a Jerk"--Tagishsimon (talk)
• Keep: She's best known just as "Tammy Faye," as the ex-wife of Jim Bakker. She is an author and one of those people famous for being famous in her own right. The article needs rewriting to make it clear. Send to Clean Up. (She was most recently on VH-1's "The Surreal Life.") Geogre 22:37, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)
• Keep. Scrape off the makeup and you might find Jimmy Hoffa though. Antandrus 01:32, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
• LOL! Keep. I can say in all honesty that she exists. Used to live out in my neck of the woods, in fact. I once bumped into her at a fast food joint. She turned out to be a rather nice person. - Lucky 6.9 02:04, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
• Keep, and thanks to Lucky for reminding me of those "I ran into Tammy Faye" T-shirts. Gazpacho 04:30, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • A relative of mine almost ran into Ian Paisley, once, except he managed to brake in time. He still wonders if this was a good idea. Anyhow, keep... Shimgray 12:29, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
• Keep obviously 06:03, Nov 25, 2004 (UTC) (this was me DCEdwards1966 06:58, Nov 25, 2004 (UTC))
• What? Definitely keep! RickK 06:30, Nov 25, 2004 (UTC)
• Obvious Keep. Though I think the article should be Tammy Faye and Tammy Faye Messner should be the redirect. Would you believe I glanced at this item and didn't recognize it right away... and it is only a couple of weeks ago that I watched The Eyes of Tammy Faye which has long interviews with Roe Messner and her marriage to him. Speaking as an outsider to right-wing evangelical circles, I found it to be astonishingly engaging and likable film BTW. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 14:53, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
• Keep as Tammy Faye Messner. Disagree with Dpbsmith, do not redirect. —[[User:Radman1|RaD Man (talk)]] 15:33, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Wikipedia:Naming_conventions: Use the most common name of a person or thing that does not conflict with the names of other people or things. "Tammy Faye" exact phrase 69,300 hits; "Tammy Faye Messner" exact phrase, 4,790 hits; it is the form she uses herself, see http://www.tammyfaye.com ; and "Tammy Faye Messner" is so unfamiliar that people failed to recognize it as notable, with the result that the article was inappropriately listed on VfD. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 15:49, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC) P. S. And as User:Timc pointed out, in any case "Tammy Faye Messner" is incorrect; if you want "full name" rather than "professional name" or "most common name", it would be "Tammy Faye Bakker Messner," [1]. But note that the page that gives that name is headed Tammy Faye's Mini-Biography... [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 18:21, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC
• Keep and link to Tammy Faye Bakker. She's clearly been in the news enough over the years to merit an article. Servais 20:23, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

• Keep. Notable. Jayjg 21:39, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
• Keep. Certainly notable enough. --Idont Havaname 00:53, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.