Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Irish people

This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was KEEP. -Splash 02:06, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Irish people

Do we really need a page just for Irish people, could it not be included in the Ireland article? Tim 13:10, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

• Keep its quite a long article and part of a category. Djegan 13:50, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
• Comment. I've left a note on the article's talk page, pointing here, there is quite an edit history and some talk of whether it was a good 'move' from "Irish enthnicity" in the first place and should it merged to elsewhere. Alf 13:55, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep : This page attempts to define many communities which have roots in thr Irish people and talks about their origin from the original residents of Ireland. Manik Raina 14:03, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Otherwise shall I go round and make pages for British people, French people, Spanish people, Indian people, Iraqi people etc?!Tim 14:07, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
  • And two of those exist! Crazy! Tim 14:07, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment Your quite free to create what you want - by the way their is English people, Scottish people, Welsh people - as for the other peoples this probabily has something to do with wikipedia been work in progress and predominantly English language. Djegan 14:47, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Don't forget theres 44m Irish Americans, many of whom are interested in Irish enthnicity, so its a useful article for them. CGorman 14:11, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
  • I agree. In my opinion, this page is about the people who emigrated from Ireland to other countries since they form an important immigrant group. This page is not about Ireland (the rock in the middle of the sea per se). Are there sizeable french populations outside france ? Then it makes sense to have such a page for those people. Manik Raina 14:17, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. The Ireland article is already too long (42k) for this to be included in it. Demiurge 15:24, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep - re. Demiurge's comment - Pete C ^✍ 15:39, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, fershure -- Francs2000 | Talk 19:13, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, this article is fine. Punkmorten 19:32, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. There are more people of Irish descent living outside Ireland than in Ireland. There is 44 million in the US and 6 million in Australia for a start. Article needs more references but it certainly gives us something to work from. Capitalistroadster 19:50, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. The nationality of the people who now live either in the Republic of Ireland or in Northern Ireland was one of the most contentious issues of the 20th Century. This is an important piece of European history. Rnt20 20:45, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Category:Ethnic groups of Europe contains hundreds of articles. Please take more care with any future nominations.CalJW 21:55, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Dude... I can nominate anything I wish, its not about taking care, if something doesn't deserve to be there in one persons opinion, its fine for them to nominate it for deletion. The fact I've been massively outnumbered shows the system works, and its not a problem for things to be nominated and then kept. Please take more care with any future patronising comments. Tim 12:21, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
    • Just because you can it doesn't mean you should. There are a number of cautions against over hasty nominations in the instructions for this page. If you make a lot of nominations which are overwhelmingly rejected, you will get frustrated and you will have wasted a lot of other peoples' time. Neither of those things will be good. Over time you will become familiar with what type of nominations might succeed. Nominating articles which are certain not to be deleted may be a breach of the policy that one should not disrupt Wikipedia to make a point, but you are not guilty of that in this instance as you are new. CalJW 15:33, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
• Strong keep! How strong? I've managed to show up to vote on this despite having just survived a hurricane, and having neither electricity nor a working telephone. I'm posting this vote telekinetically, by sheer force of will. -- BD2412 ^talk 21:55, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep (looks like this is agreeed) --ClemMcGann 22:11, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep.Big,important article.--Play Brian Moore 22:27, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep The notion of a distinct Irish ethnicity is quite widely accepted; to delete this page would be a disservice to that fact.--TheMcManusBro 00:58, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. These articles exist for a number of other nationalities, check out Greeks. I would argue that nationalities are constructs but I recognise that still doesn't stop people believing in them. The present article, though, needs some revising. The Greek article could serve as a model, as as with the Irish, there are substantial numbers of Greeks living outside of Greece and that was always the case. --Damac 09:25, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Keep - by comparison with other given articles above, this should stay. Alf 15:00, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.