Talk:Vogue (dance)

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[edit] Vogue fem

This article does require a definition of the sub-category of vogue fem. It seems a previous user attempted a loose definition, but it was deleted in full by another user, presumably with ulterior motives. However, because vogue fem is a prevalent style employed by the active performers of vogue and in the same venues as the other styles, it is important that it be included in the paragraph discussing Old Way and New Way. I hope it is not improper, but I nominate Frank León Roberts to create an appropriate description, as he is widely considered to be the foremost scholar on and in the ballroom scene. --Trrill 02:15, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Historical data

It may also be of interest to consider incorporating extraneous historical data that have been offered by various older members of the community, such as Dorian Corey and Pepper LaBeija. For instance, in Wolfgang Busch's documentary How Do I Look NYC, Pepper LaBeija states in a voice-over that the history of vogue/performance has some of its roots at Rikers Island. One wonders how or if such historical data might be substantiated, since Wikipedia does encourage in-depth articles (where even trivialities have their place), and not just the brevity exampled in the current article on vogue. --Trrill 02:22, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Possible organization

I LoVE VOGUE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.69.201.130 (talk) 21:11, 7 March 2008 (UTC) This article was tagged for Wikipedia standards compliance in July 2006. To begin a cleanup, I suggest breaking the article into sections (with headings, where appropriate) as follows: definition, History, Styles, vogue in popular culture (with sub-sections delineating the music referencing vogue in particular and music videos featuring vogue (from Jody Watley, Malcolm McLaren, and the like). This may be followed by a bulleted list of relevant personages comprising the practitioners and historical figures in vogue. It would also be suitable to obtain permission for the use of one or two photographs (historical or otherwise) depicting dancers in poses representative of vogue. --Trrill 01:55, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

This article (as is evident from the self-promotion) was contributed by a member of the Midwest ballroom community. Suffice it to say that after my long stint on House of Balls (Yahoo) as co-moderator, it became clear quite early that most kids in the scene are woefully ignorant of actual ballroom history. The further you get from New York City the greater that ignorance becomes. What's worse is that most will make up what they don't really or rightfully know. But, it is to be expected. The written or documented word matters little in this scene. Neither does what came before. This is a scene that lives for who's hot now.

Wari Shade

There are many historical and factual inconsistencies and inaccuracies in this article that I attempted to correct from my own first hand experience of over 20 years involved in and around the ballroom in NYC. Apparently whatever forces may be at play chose to re-edit my edits. Too bad, the facts will remain the domain of those of us who actually lived them.

WS

I want to encourage you not to give up and be patient with the wiki process. We all probably want a great article about voguing and for it to be accurate as well as fab. Consider looking at other more developed article and get a sense of the style they are presented then see if there are any changes that might make sense for this article. One rule is to be bold, another is to assume good faith that others mean well (even if that seems not to always be true). I've made some substantial improvements and added some appropriate categories. Please help tell the story of voguing and provide any good references or links to videos whenever possible.Benjiboi 10:50, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] LATE...

Some of the people listed on this wiki page need not be! Let the kids get their life I guess...lmao —Preceding unsigned comment added by VIVISM (talk • contribs) 22:52, 1 May 2008 (UTC)