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Moved this excerpt that was posted to the main page here, so as not to lose it (I'm not the author of this excerpt):

In fact Viswakarma is not the son of Brahma, but he is the creator of the whole universe. Here the meaning of Viswakarma according to sanskrit is Viswasya Karmanah itiya Viswakarmanah.i.e The one who created this whole universe with his work. Here "Viswa" means "The Universe", "Karma" means work which refers to the Ominipotent creator. Also Viswakrma is also called as "Panchanan".i.e. Viswakarma with five faces. Also he is the creator of Brahama, Vishnu, Maheswara, Indra and Surya who are called as PanchaBrahmas. Any suggestions and clarification plese mail to viswazna_0@yahoo.co.in --Vivek 19:20, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Kindly read "Yajur Veda 4.3.2" I've changed the article. Kindly have a look at the same.BalanceRestored 05:47, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Ditto the above:


  VISWAKARMA, VISWABRAMAN, VIRAD VISWA BRAMAN.

According to the mythology of traditional artisan like Black smith,Carpenter,Copper smith,Stone sculpter and Gold smith the viswakarma is the personification of Virad viswa braman,the ultimate reality. Viswabramapurana and Moolastambapurana is giving a picture of Viswabrama incarnated out of nothingness having five heads such as Sadyojatham ,Tathpurusham ,Akhoram ,Eeshanam , Vamadevam and ten hands weilding trident ,tools of creation,four vedas and fifth veda of Pranavam[vasthu shastram].Five prajapathies such as Manu ,maya ,Toshtwa, Shilpy and Viswagjna originated from his five heads .This concept of god of creation must have been crystelized during the formative period of arts and crafts in india and closily associated with the advent of metal technology . vedic period presented this concept with Brahmanaspathy and Brahaspathy. Later puranas giving a mutilated form of brama with four heads and his epithet [or the remaining head] became another viswakarma as a divine architect. In this phase of hinduism ,one can see the Brama is loosing his supreme[Viswakarma] status and Siva is metamorphosing as Kalabraman.This may be reflectng the social change such as supermacy of clericks and knights over creative working class.???.Any way now Brama temples are very less in India and Viswakarma in the form of Virad Visawa Braman is being worshipped by traditional artisans . In south india some them are still wearing sacred thred and following their vedic traditions.

DocWatson42 13:52, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of image

The image on this page was removed as it did not belong to Vishwakarma but to Brahma !!

[edit] Shloka in "Vasishtha Purana"

OM Vishawakarma Parabrahma Jagada Dhaŕ Muklakaha | Tanmukhani Tuvai Pancha - Pancha Brahmo Tyuhradat (3.6.11)

This means Vishwakarm created 5 Brahma from each for his 5 Mukhas to create the Srusti (Universe)

BalanceRestored 11:51, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vishwakarma and Tvastr are different

There is a quote which says "Vishwakarma in later mythology sometimes identified with Tvastr". This is wrong. There is a clear narration in the Shrimad Bhagawatam ISBN 81-7276-376-X the following.

Page 162 Tvaṣṭā was very angry with Indra for having killed his son. He performed a homa and the invocation was: "Arise! Indrashatru come out and kill your enemy"

after that Indrashatru starts to dictate his terms with devas and, then the devas after panicing meet Lord Vishnu

Page 163 For this lord Vishnu suggest to collect the devas to collect the bones of Rishi Dadhichi and tells

"Out of his bones ask your Architect Vishwakarma to fashion a dreadful weapon and call it VAJRAYUDHA"BalanceΩrestored Talk 05:30, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

So, this makes it very clear that Vishwakarma and Tvastr are different deities if we refer Shrimad Bhagwatam. Now I do not understand what Monier-Williams is stating?BalanceΩrestored Talk 05:32, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

you did note, didn't you, the "sometimes"? It means that sometimes, they aren't identified. dab (𒁳) 09:17, 31 May 2008(UTC)

which publication of Monier-Williams is stating that. It will be great if you give a proper reference. Currently the reference is just stating Monier-Williams(1899). If you let me which book by Monier-Williams, it will help me read the exact narration, as it seems very interesting. BalanceΩrestored Talk 06:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Here is one ref which identifies both of them. [1][2]--Redtigerxyz (talk) 06:37, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

BalanceRestored, for how long have you been editing Hinduism-related articles? Monier-Williams is chiefly known because he "compiled one of the most widely-used Sanskrit-English dictionaries". If you are interested in any Sanskrit term, your first stop is MW. There is no excuse for not consulting MW, these days, because the full text is online. dab (𒁳) 06:52, 3 June 2008 (UTC)