Talk:Violent Femmes (album)

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[edit] Name Dropper

Okay, whoever wrote that second paragraph was totally name-dropping. There's no need to name like every band that were before the Violent Femmes, and surely no need to mention a the most popular CD from each band. Someone please fix up.


[edit] Van Morrison's Astral Weeks removed

Okay, I love Violent Femmes and I love Astral Weeks. But I'm damned if I can hear ANY connection between them. In fact, I can't see how two albums could be more different. I suppose they both have a folk influence, although it is a very different kind of folk and much significant in Violent Femmes. Don't millions of albums have a folk influence? I suppose they both have the theme of redemption through pain, although this is explored very differently and is much more significant in Astral Weeks. Doesn't pretty much every good cultural product have this theme to some extent?

So I cannot lie, Astral Weeks went bye bye, bye bye bye bye.

[edit] Requested move

"The" Violent Femmes? This page needs to be moved, since its title erroneously includes the word "the." Neither the band name nor the album name includes the word. This can be seen on the band's own website: vfemmes.com. I went to move the page, but found that there is already a page with this name, that redirects to the current one. Apparently it has already been moved in the wrong direction. If it were the band's name (Wik page) in question, I probably wouldn't make an issue out of it, since everyone pretty much says "the Violent Femmes" anyway, but for the album title, it is clear that "the" is not part of it.

Since there is a page that already exists with this name, it would need an admin to move.

Freekee 01:30, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Discussion

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I deleted Violent Femmes (album) as it had no useful history. If the move is agreed, anyone can now do it. (If not, please recreate the redirect.) Rd232 talk 16:47, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation. As far as I can tell, we'll need admin to do that. Freekee 17:17, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Only indie album to go platinum?

At the end of the introductory paragraph is this sentence: "To this day, Violent Femmes remains the only independently released album to attain platinum sales status."

That doesn't sound right. The Offspring's 1994 album "Smash" was released on Epitaph Records, which was an independent label at the time (and still is today if I'm not mistaken), and went multiplatinum within the first year after its release.

I won't edit or delete that sentence, though -- I'll wait for someone to come along and clarify that sentence and explain what I'm missing.

I don't think you're missing anything. I think it should be removed, unless some concrete proof can be provided. The problem is that even if the fact is true in some context (and I don't think it is), defining an indie label is difficult in itself.
Record companies and music publishers that are not under the control of the Big Four are generally considered to be independent, even if they are large corporations with complex structures. Some prefer to use the term indie label to refer to only those independent labels that adhere to an arbitrary, ill-defined criteria of corporate structure and size, and some consider an indie label to be almost any label that releases non-mainstream music, regardless of its corporate structure. [from World music market]
I think we should stick to more quantifiable statistics, perhaps relating to chart position. -Freekee 01:59, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
This is certanly not right. The Panic! at the Disco album as also gone platinum along with many, many other indie records.Doc Strange 12:10, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
As has, if you remember, Smash by The Offspring Doc Strange 15:03, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gone Daddy Gone "proper credit"?

I'm curious about how the band gave "proper credit" to Willie Dixon's "I Just Want To Make Love To You" on their debut album. I admit I don't have the original vinyl, but I do have the compact disc, as well as the Rhino reissue, and neither mention anything except the songs being written by Gordon Gano. Does the vinyl release contain something that the compact disc releases didn't recreate? If so, I wouldn't mind seeing it, such as a scan or something. Lvillealumni 07:32, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Billboard 200?

The article says that it is the only album ever to go platinum without going on the billboard 200, but it also says it debuted at 171 on the billboard 200. BurningZeppelin 06:19, 10 May 2007 (UTC)