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[edit] The word Existentialism

Did Frankl really coin the word Existentialim? And if so, can we have a reference? The Gabriel Marcel entry also claims coinage for its subject.

          no, he did not, that was sartre and camus  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.27.102.40 (talk) 09:29, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Before Auschwitz?

I am completely new here so I don't know if this is appropriate, but from my knowledge Frankl found long before the concentration camp his thesis that a goal, a meaning in life will cure. He found it after a statistic he made in an Austrian clinic. I do not have my books here, but I can look it up. Thank you everybody for Wikipedia -- Thomas

Hi Thomas -- please do. Much information was recently transfered from the German article, and so apparently it was also not there. If you add it, make your comment here and maybe to the german article talk page. --Otheus 08:25, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Grieving process

Wasn't he one of the founders (through his terrible experience) of the "five-step" grieving process (see Grief)?

No, he was not. Apparently he did it without grieving, read this, please [1].

[edit] substantial edit

I edited the article and had really trouble to verify this paragraph: In Theresienstadt, he worked as a general practitioner in a clinic until his skill in psychiatry was noticed and he was asked to establish a special unit to help newcomers to the camp overcome the shock. He later set up a suicide watch unit, and all intimations of suicide were reported to him. To maintain his own sanity in the dismal conditions, he would frequently march outside and deliver a lecture to an imaginary audience about "Psychotherapeutic Experiences in a Concentration Camp."

If someone can confirm this, please put this paragraph back into the article. Themanwithoutapast 22:36, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the suicide watch unit; in his book he breifly discusses how rare suicide was. Other than that, the rest of it is valid. --Crucible Guardian 02:38, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Look here, the article about Regina Jonas, part of it sounds similar to me:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regina_Jonas Austerlitz 88.72.4.143 17:05, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
I reinserted the material (excluding the suicide watch unit) back into the section. Please review. --Otheus 08:28, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Question of God

Experiences in a concentration camp, taken from Frankl's book Man's Search For Meaning Viktor Frankl, can we take the link [2] from the German wikipedia site to this english one, too? The text sheds much light on the problem of imagination vs. reality.

Is is valid for the section External links? Austerlitz 88.72.4.77 12:00, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copy-edits and conciseness

I did some copy-editing, both minor and major. The major copy-editing was to make the article more concise. While this article needs more "meat", it does need more "fluff". --Otheus 19:57, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Beamtenfamilie

If someone knows a proper word or phrase that could be used instead of Beamtenfamile that would be great. To really understand the word it would be useful to know that in Austria (and maybe other countries as well) it used to be that you stayed in the same level of work as your fathers. For examples there were lots doctor-families, or families where everyone was a civil servant, and the point here is that Frankl found his way out of that pattern... --VeronikaMM 09:14, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

I used the phrase "family of civil servants", but I don't think this is as impactful to English readers who are not familiar with the Old Europe patterns of employment. The closest thing we Americans would have is "family business", but that doesn't sound accurate, especially not to the tag "civil servant". --Otheus 09:05, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Makes sense... Family Businesses exist here too and always did, but I never really considered it to be even close to what I was refering to. The fact is that children took (take) over the family business is that they identify with it (probably they had worked there as kids already and grew into it, whereas I see the families of civil servants more as something that is a tradition more than anything else.--VeronikaMM 13:55, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Adding biographical info

I am adding information from the German site, to mainly complete the biographical information...--VeronikaMM 10:18, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:1frankl-book.JPG

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[edit] I don't understand

Though assigned to ordinary labor details until the last few weeks of the war,: what kind of "ordinary labor details" are you talking about?

Austerlitz -- 88.72.17.8 12:23, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I've added some information from the book University over the Abyss.

Austerlitz -- 88.72.17.8 12:24, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Why is it that he never mentioned Regina Jonas in his book(s) on Concentration camp?

-- 88.72.18.59 11:03, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Robert Schuller's Magazin POSSIBILITIES, The International Magazine of Hope

In the March-April edition 1991 there should be an interview with Viktor Frankl saying that he had been in Auschwitz camp for some days only. Until now I have not been able to find that interview online or elsewhere.

and I still don't know the english title of Timothy Pytell's biography about Frankl.

Austerlitz -- 88.72.11.148 14:11, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ISBN's

Please correct the ISBN for The unconscious God : psychotherapy and theology. Thanks in advance! Best regards
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[edit] Pronounciation?

How do you pronounce his last name? Like "Frankle"? --antilivedT | C | G 09:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)