Talk:Victor Frankenstein

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[edit] Two younger brothers?

If his mother died when he was born, how could he have two younger brothers? Is it a typo for "older brothers"? If they're really younger, are they half-brothers? Or are they adopted like his sister? 80.43.88.80 13:57, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

He did have two younger brothers in the book, Ernest and William. His mother did not die when he was born, but when he was young - does it say when he was born in the article? I'll change it. Robin Johnson (talk) 14:02, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

where was frankensteins home?

Geneva, Switzerland, on the lake. --Scottandrewhutchins 21:00, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Baron

The word "Baron" appears nowhere in Shelley's text and does not belong in the main section of the article. It is appropriate if there is an adaptation section only. --Scottandrewhutchins 18:41, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Baron

Just because the term "baron" is never actually used in the novel, it doesn't mean that he isn't one. In the novel, Victor obviously comes from a wealthy and noble family from Switzerland, (and if one goes back far enough, probably Germany.) Seeing his family's place and rank in the story, it would not be a stretch to consider him a "baron" since his high status is inferred to. Plus, further film adaptations have pretty much solidified his status as one.

I know Universal and Hammer don't count as Shelley, but think of it this way: In the early comics, Superman could not fly, and had no known weaknesses. The concept of Kryptonite wasn't even created until years later on radio show, and his ability to fly was popularized on the early Fleischer Studios cartoons rather than the comics, (where he could only leap tall buildings...) Now, both have become accepted parts of the literary Superman's history and canon. I feel the same way about the fictional character of Victor Frankenstein. If Vlad Dracula can be a Count, then Victor can be a Baron. Dr.Mirakle32 05:56, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

There is a huge difference in that one is an adaptation and the other is a corporate-owned character's evolution. --Scottandrewhutchins 14:04, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

But if 9 outta 10 famous adaptations, which have pretty much defined the Frankenstein mythos for most people have considered the Victor character a baron (with good reason, taken from evidence from the novel) then surely it becomes canon?69.53.147.138 15:03, 11 May 2007 (UTC)Dr.Mirakle32

There is no such retroactive canon for novel vs. film, any more than DC considers Jack Napier to be the Joker's real name. To star introducing ideas from adaptations into a description of the original novel is good only to confuse the issue. --Scottandrewhutchins

Then again, I still consider the Joker's real name to be Jack Napier, even when the comics don't. But remember, it was accepted as an alias for the Joker in the Batman Animated Series history, so maybe that should count? It's all subjective. Plus, didn't the grappling gun first make an appearance in the first Burton Batman? He has been using that in the comcis/cartoons/movies ever since.--- Dr.Mirakle32

Such subjectivities are completely inappropriate for Wikipedia.--Scottandrewhutchins 14:10, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Don't be so anal about it. Nothing I put is made up or innacurate. I state the source of him first being baron, and I clearly point out why he is always referred to as one, even though the actual word is nowhere in the novel. You obviously love the original novel, which is terrific, and I'm sure you probably don't like the film versions, but this is a page for Victor Frankenstein as a character: not just the character from the book but the character in general.

And how is my section from "In Other Media" not neutral? I never state one performance is better than the other; in fact, I state quite the opposite, and I cite my sources with other Wikipedia links. 69.53.147.138 15:25, 14 May 2007 (UTC)Dr.Mirakle32

The style is too informal and gives opinions about the performances in the descriptions. --Scottandrewhutchins 15:41, 14 May 2007 (UTC)