Talk:Victor DeLorenzo

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[edit] Stub?

While I recognize that an article should not be labelled a "stub" simply because it is short, I do feel it is obvious that the current article, at a mere three paragraphs, does not detail the life and works of Victor DeLorenzo to the degree necessary in a real encyclopedia. Perhaps, just as a place to start, more about his solo work and time away from the Femmes? What about his time with Theatre X? Simply saying that Victor "worked with them in various roles for more than twenty years" leaves much to be desired in terms of detail. Dunne409 08:25, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. We're talking about notablility, here. Victor's notable accomplishments are: drummer of a famous band. Member of a Milwaukee theater company. Well known local drummer. Released several solo records. How much space should he get? I mean, he's no Mick Jagger. Do you want to know where Victor went to high school? He wasn't knighted. There is no great controversy around him. He's never been arrested - at least any arrest that made the news worldwide, let alone the local news. Here's another artist to compare to: Mo Tucker. She doesn't even have twice the length of bio as Victor, but it seems complete. And she's way more notable than Victor. I'll see if I can dig up any more info on his involvement with Theater X, but don't be surprised if the stub tag disappears without the addition of more info. Please say if you can think of any other specific kind of info that might deserve a place in the article. -Freekee 16:54, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
Upon looking at the definition for a stub, I find,
A stub is an article that is too short, but not so short as to be useless. In general, it must be long enough to at least define the article's title, which generally means 3 to 10 short sentences. Note that even a longer article on a complicated topic may be a stub; conversely, a short article on a topic of narrow scope may not be a stub.
Another way to define a stub is an article so incomplete that an editor who knows little or nothing about the topic could improve its content after a superficial Internet search or a few minutes in a reference library. An article that can be improved by only a rather knowledgeable editor, or after significant research, may not be a stub.
Considering it took me over an hour and a half to write the article [1], I doubt if anyone can expand it significantly with a superficial internet search. I think it includes all of the essential information necessary to tell the reader who the man is and what he's done. Additional information is certainly welcome, but I don't think the article needs a tag to explain to readers that it is somehow lacking, nor a listing to attract editors to improve it. New information will accumulate over time. -Freekee 19:55, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Shortly after reading your original reply this morning, I too read over the wikipedia definition of "stub" and consequently had my resolve to label this article a stub weakened. I certainly think this article would benefit from significant expansion, but I guess it is really not as cursory as the term "stub" suggests. Though I would maintain that in its current form it is somewhere between a stub and a complete article, I don't think it makes sense to push the issue in this case. Dunne409 02:09, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, but I'm still not sure what info you're looking for. :-) -Freekee 02:52, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] surfing the Wikipedia

Fat Tuesday, or Shrove Tuesday is called Pancake Day in some places. Saint Faustyna Kowalska had one of her visions on Shrove Tuesday. Coincidence that Victor's albums are named after these related subjects? I think not! -Freekee 04:02, 15 July 2006 (UTC)