Talk:Versus (TV channel)

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POV Problems.

the whole section about the cycling coverage is majorly POV. it needs to be fixed.

I changed the page so that anything negative about OLN's cycling coverage was rephrased as being an opinion held by serious American cycling fans. I'd slide in a paragraph about people who love their coverage, but I can't in good conscience do that, as I do not know of anyone who does.


The whole article is POV. Especially disturbing is the line:

Dish Network will never restore OLN at any time in the future.

Meanwhile, DirecTV is the exclusive satellite home for OLN (at channel 608), and will be that way for many years to come.

Sounds like a DTV user, if not an employee.

According to published reports, the channel will be on Dish on April 22, 2006.Rkw1111 03:20, 21 April 2006 (UTC)rkw1111

Why isn't there a "content" bar on the site? It only shows up when you edit it...

On September 25, 2006, it will change its name to Versus.

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[edit] Move

Alright, I've moved the page from OLN to Versus (TV channel).. but how many OLN's are supposed to change to Versus? All of them? AWBricker 02:58, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Shouldn't the title of the article just be Versus, and have a link to the disambiguation page maybe? The two things at the top of that page are not even titled versus for their articles. Bmitchelf 04:13, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I believe (but not certain), once a name has 3+ possible destinations, it has to go to disambiguation, and then they have to be classified as following.. I dont know if that makes sense or not.. I'm hardly a wiki expert. AWBricker 04:46, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Need more historical background for OLN

Versus is new and swept OLN off the article, but I feel we need more info in the article about the Outdoor Life Network that was replaced. I would not be qualified to add the info, but someone should.

-- Guroadrunner 11:54, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was no move Patstuarttalk|edits 11:53, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

Versus (TV channel) → Versus

Alright, I've moved the page from OLN to Versus (TV channel).. but how many OLN's are supposed to change to Versus? All of them? ABricker 02:58, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Shouldn't the title of the article just be Versus, and have a link to the disambiguation page maybe? The two things at the top of that page are not even titled versus for their articles. Bmitchelf 04:13, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I believe (but not certain), once a name has 3+ possible destinations, it has to go to disambiguation, and then they have to be classified as following.. I dont know if that makes sense or not.. I'm hardly a wiki expert. AWBricker 04:46, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose Versus is the legal term or what people think of in the abbreviation of 'vs.' in general. At worst, Versus should be a disambiguation page. No company should be able to 'take over' a common term just by changing their name, else Apple would be Apple Computer. There's too many possibilities and this is not the default one that will come to mind for the majority of people editing or reading. Kevin_b_er 19:30, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment As the "mover" of this page, I thought it should be known I moved the page to Versus (TV channel) keep the format with other TV channels with common names, such as TLC (TV channel). ABricker 01:39, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Move If the logic of Kevin_b_er follows, than the page for Vs. should redirect to the Versus disambiguation page. However, it leads to the Pearl Jam album that is called Vs. MTV is listed as MTV, not MTV (TV Channel). As for TLC, it has different meanings, most notable Tender Loving Care. The TLC channel is abbreviated for The Learning Channel, so its a case on its own. Unless Vs. becomes a disambiguation page (there already is a Vs. disambig page at VS., I believe the Versus article should be about the TV network, with a link to a dismbiguation page. Milchama 11:25, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose. "Versus" can mean many things, significantly more important than the TV channel. For example, see Hero (channel). --Howard the Duck 17:23, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] OLN (Canada) is not a sister channel to Versus

Sister channels don't cross Canadian borders. MTV2, MTV Tr3s and VH1 are sister networks to MTV. Style Network is a sister network to E!. I believe that it should be mentioned that the Canadian OLN didn't rebrand to Versus, but it shouldn't have billing in the info box as a sister channel. Milchama 11:07, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Outdoor Life Network original logo.png

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:VS-HD-Logo.jpg

Image:VS-HD-Logo.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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