Talk:Verrazano-Narrows Bridge
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 |
This article is part of WikiProject New York City, an effort to create, expand, and improve New York City-related articles to Wikipedia feature-quality standard. Bulletin: The next New York City meetup is Sunday June 1st. |
| B | This article has been rated as B-Class on the quality scale. |
| Mid | This article has been rated as mid-importance on the importance scale. |
 |
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Bridges, a WikiProject which aims to expand coverage of bridges on Wikipedia. Please feel free to join us. |
| B | This article has been rated as B-Class on the quality scale. (add assessment comments) |
| High | This article has been rated as high-importance on the importance scale. |
 |
It is requested that a map or maps be included in this article to improve its quality. Wikipedians in New York may be able to help! |
Contents |
[edit] mhhw
Quick note from a mariner: Bridge clearances tend to be given using mean HIGHER high water, and not mean high water. The difference can sometimes be significant. Could we update the vertical clearance to be MHHW, vs MHW. 71.200.92.220 20:36, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Longest Suspension Bridge?
The article claims that the bridge is the longes suspension bridge in the United States, but should that be edited to say it has the longest suspended span? For instance, the total length of the Mackinac Bridge in Michigan is over 26,000 feet, much longer than the Verranzano-Narrows. Saying "longest bridge" is up to some interpretation. Jamesfett 14:51, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- ok i agree i think they should do that! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.59.207.136 (talk • contribs) 12:29, 13 August 2007
[edit] Nickname
Should it be mentioned that the bridge was often refered to as the "Guinea Gangplank"?
[edit]
"It is named after the explorer Giovanni da Verrazano...." Isn't is supposed to be that the bridge was named after Verrazano Narrows, which was named after the Italian guy? --seav 03:01, Aug 21, 2003 (UTC)
Cecropia. I believe the name has no hyphen in it. At least that's what the MTA site says is the official name. I think some web sites mistakenly put in the comma. -- Decumanus 08:51, 16 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Decumanus. What we are dealing with is a name in common usage vs. its legal name. I rely for legal names on the MTA's financial filings (which are pretty much Hoyle, since they have legal meaning), which consistently has the hyphen. Likewise the name of the agency that runs the bridge (MTA B&T vs. TBTA). As you say, there is no body of water named "Verrazano Narrows," it is "The Narrows." Cecropia 14:18, 16 Feb 2004 (UTC)
marcusmv3. I have seen in Italy the name written with two z's ("Verrazzano") and correctly pronounced with the same sound that a double-z makes in "pizza", thus it would sound, phoenetically "Verratzano." My grandfather, an Italian-American and Brooklyn or Staten Island resident his whole life swears that our current spelling of the name stems from a spelling error made when the signs for the bridge were made to be put up around metro area highways. Of course I am skeptical of this, but I do believe that the name is spelled incorrectly in America. Can anyone explain this? marcusmv3 0:12, 5 Apr 2006 (UTC)
- Most of the references cite as the correct spelling for the Italian explorer Giovanni da Verrazzano. Both en.wiki and it.wiki explorer's pages are double z. Surely in origin it was double z: I am Italian and I can tell you it's unnatural for us to say "Verrazano" with only one z, so I suggest to change the name of the explorer in Verrazzano, in the page. I also think your grandfather was right, and the bridge was named after a sort of spelling error. My discussion page is here [1]. Kiban --87.8.134.197 (talk) 18:58, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Bridge Controvercy?
I still do not understand why people didnt want it named after the italian explorer. Like why would anyone care except those people who loved JFK. Tutmosis 02:37, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- I remember when the bridge was planned and built. I don't recall any movement to name for JFK. If there was one, it didn't have enough presence to be debated in the press. As to naming for Verrazano, I don't remember any objections on the basis that it would be a bad name or (implied) anti-Italian. Some people objected because in all its planning it was described a "The Narrows Bridge" and tacking another name on it at naming time seemed like what today would be called "Political Correctness." People liked simplicity. Nowadays of course, we'd probably call it "The Verrazano-Coca-Cola-Sponsored-Michael-Bloomberg-GLBT-Veterans-Memorial-9/11-Remembrance Bridge" -- Cecropia 17:04, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
- The official MTA site now says Verrazano-Narrows Bridge. I think the article should be moved accordingly to the appropriate page. --Zimbabweed 23:07, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
-
- Good idea. Mackerm 05:51, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
-
- I agree. Not only does the official name have a hyphen, but omitting it suggests that the name of the body of water is crosses is "Verrazano Narrows." -- Cecropia 17:06, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
I agree that the panoramic picture look better in the body of the article because the form factor doesn't fit with the "gallery", but it has absolutely nothing to do with the "naming controversy" section and as such, shouldn't be under that title. If we can't come up with a more appropriate place for it, I think it needs to be in the gallery. Rruss (talk) 01:04, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Was Travolta right?
In Saturday night fever, John Travolta's character claims that a guy was buried in cement in one of the supports. Has this ever been a common theory, or was it fabricated for the film? 86.31.87.97 23:51, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
- They say this about every construction project in New York City, after all it was all built by teamsters. --208.120.213.26 (talk) 15:46, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] question?
"Due to thermal expansion/contraction of steel, the bridge roadway is 12' lower in summer than its winter elevation"
Is that supposed to say 12 feet or 12 inches?? 12 feet seems like an awful lot of expansion/contraction. Possible typo? Eleigh33 19:56, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
-
-
- nevermind, it's correct, I found it on an MTA site also stating 12 feet. Eleigh33 00:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
-
[edit] another picture (satellite imagery)
theres already plenty of pics in the article, but this one is pretty cool, shows the bridge from satellite. Thought i'd post it here if anyone wanted to work it into the article.Eleigh33 05:38, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Pedestrian?
Can pedestrians walk the bridge? Never heard of it, but then, the Brooklyn and Golden Gate are the only ones which are really known as walking destinations.
Some toll bridges I've seen do not appear to have pedestrian pathways (a couple in Rhode Island, though I may merely have missed them).
As there's no mention of a bicycle/pedestrian fee in the toll discussion, does that mean that pedestrians are barred from walking it or not charged for its use?--71.192.117.127 03:01, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Sadly pedestrians and cyclists are still not allowed. They have been asking for years but it doesn't look like its happening anytime soon. Mayor Bloomberg promised to look into it (not sure but was it possibly part of plaNYC?), but it remains just that, a politicians empty promise.
[edit] $9.00 toll?
Why has there never been any talk about why the toll is NINE DOLLARS?? Will it ever drop? This means that passing through from Jersey to Brooklyn you must pay $15 in tolls. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.187.14.54 (talk) 17:13, August 28, 2007 (UTC)
- Because this discussion page is for discussion about the article itself, and the amount of the toll is irrelevant to that except for the fact of the amount. Whether it's too much is something more appropriate for a New York–area message board (I assume some such exists). For what it's worth, the toll is the same as the other "major" TBTA facilities in that it adds up to $4.50 each way, but since you only pay one way it hits harder. 1995hoo 22:18, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] ?
First, sorry for my English, i'm Russian. Could you tell me, please, how correct to talk (and how native English-talking people do it) name of this bridge — [verraZano] ("Z" as simple "z" in English) or [verraCano] ("C" also as "t͡s" in IPA)? 89.17.32.30 05:50, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
- I hope I've been pronouncing the name correctly, but as far as i know, it's a simple "Z". Alansohn 01:55, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] 9/11 facts
Whats the point of this entry? In terms of the of the Verrazano bridge I fail to see what the importance of it being closed for one day during a terrorist attack is. Its not like the bridge was hit or anything. Its not even cited, it should probably be removed.--208.120.213.26 (talk) 15:39, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
