Talk:Vermont Yankee Nuclear Power Plant

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[edit] Brattleboro

While I'm sure the activities in Brattleboro are interesting to some people, I don't see how it pertains to this article. The people of Brattleboro, nor any of the other 253 towns (or all other, for that matter) have any slightest jurisdiction in this case. The state legislature has some and the national government quite a bit. The Brattleboro paragraph should be deleted IMO. It's simple "political grandstanding." Okay for a newspaper, I suppose, but certainly doesn't belong in an encyclopedia. Student7 (talk) 04:08, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Balanced article

If someone wants to change the article itself to what has gone on at the plant that would be fine, but putting in pointers to groups that oppose nuclear power on principle does not seem useful. Think about the political arena. What if all the groups that didn't like Bill Clinton were added at the bottom of his article "for balance?" That would make no sense and not contribute a whit to the article. In fact, when you think of it, the pointer is really political spam for the group! Student7 (talk) 01:55, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Let me see if I've got this right. You're happy to have a "See also" link for Nuclear power in the United States, but not for Anti-nuclear movement in the United States? And you're happy for Entergy to have their VY site linked in the "External links", but you don't want a link to a site which opposes the plant? Johnfos (talk) 06:58, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Just went to Obama's site (bios are different, but let me make a point). There are no Obama hate sites there. And BTW, not everyone loves him. Or any of the other candidates or incumbents. While the anti- organization is spam here, it might not be in an article, I'm sure there is one, about anti-nuclear activities. I guess there is a forum for everyone.
And (in the bios) all sorts of pointers to articles enhancing their pov. The plant, per se, is not a political organization. It is simply a factory churning out electricity. The politics need to be directed elsewhere to where decisions are made - the political arena in other words. This is not a political article nor are political decisions made here. Okay to picket there, you need the publicity and where else would you go in Vermont, but please don't confuse what you do politically with encylopedic organization. Student7 (talk) 11:17, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
All activity is political. Driving a car, buying gasoline, using electricity. It is political that multiple government agencies regulate the operations of the plant. -- Yellowdesk (talk) 14:54, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I agree with Yellowdesk. We are not writing a technical report here. This is an article which also covers the non-technical (political, social...) aspects of VY. Ideally we would have a Controversy section to cover this, as has happened in Indian Point Energy Center, but until then we should add some links which discuss non-technical issues, to give the article some depth and balance. Johnfos (talk) 04:44, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
If you are talking political, no. Politics are not created here. It is simply a venue for picketing because the picketers don't want to go clear to DC where the decisions are made and get lost in the crowd. That is fine. The article however should be confined to the production (or screwups) in producing electrons which go out the pipe at the other end. This is a 9-5 job for somebody. When they make mistakes in processing atoms and producing electrons, that's when we have a balanced article. A spill or something; cooling tower collapse. Not a link farm for political spam. I was surprised to find that the presidential candidates articles are not link farms for political spam. You'd expect it there. But if not there, not here for sure. Not here anyway though. Student7 (talk) 13:24, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Balance article, part 2

Okay. I guess. I would have thought the failures were more substansive. Not exactly three mile island. Kind of like the radiator failing on your car. Not something you want to hear, but no big deal either. Whatever. Big headline. Major blow to company bottom line BTW - plant down. Management does not appear impressive.

Anyway, combined some of the sentences in the last part. The block quote kind of looks nice, right? Couldn't get the reference to kick out. Maybe should go back to carets for the thing? See what you think. Removed Douglas' name from the prior paragraph which seemed redundant.

Not sure that cooling tower is really worth all that much space, but no big deal I guess. The whole story is there I suppose. Student7 (talk) 00:32, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, looks fine. Thanks for that. Johnfos (talk) 01:27, 5 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Some possible additions

One of the things I would like to see is the addition of info about the cooling tower that collapsed. How big (or small) was it? Weight?

We don't get much of a feel for the plant as a business. Since some Vermonters pay as much as 14 cents/KWH (with overhead listed as something else), I assume that "wholesale" price is 8-10 cents/KWH or so. Probably not listed "per plant" but at least locally owned utilities should be able to give us some idea.

How many people are employed? Student7 (talk) 23:12, 6 April 2008 (UTC)