Talk:Vermilion
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The article says
It is also the name of the typical color of the pigment, which is a bright but somewhat lighter and very slightly orange shade.
which makes very little sense to me. Any suggestions? --Phil | Talk 14:58, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
- I guess it is missing the word 'red', as in;
- It is also the name of the typical color of the pigment, which is a bright red, but somewhat lighter and very slightly orange shade.
- On the other hand, I think we can probably write a better entry. -- Solipsist 19:25, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Color codes
Where do the color codes come from? I haven't been able to find any reliable source on the Web. Yes, I found pages claiming that vermilion is such and such in RGB/CMYK/HSV, but no evidence to back that up.
- so, you've found pages on the internet, but nothing reliable enough to be a source? that sucks. but since I don't think there's a governing body with the authority to dictate which physical colours have which names, I'd say that we have to accept that this is a de facto standard, and provide links to a fair number of the pages you found. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.144.16.61 (talk) 08:03, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Red or Orange?
Is vermilion a red pigment, or an orange one. All I know is that it is my most favorite color. When I was 5 people used to call me Orange. So I hope Vermilion belongs to the orange family. I've read on encarta that it is a red pigment.
- Traditionally, in an artist's pallette, I think Vermilion has always been considered a red. But it is quite an orange red. Cadmium red is a cheaper stronger red used today, which would give you the wiggle room to call vermilion an 'orange-red used by purists'. -- Solipsist 19:01, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Updated color codes
| Vermilion | ||
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| Hex triplet | #E34234 | |
| B | (r, g, b) | (227, 66, 52) |
| HSV | (h, s, v) | (5°, 77.1%, 89%) |
| Source | [Unsourced] | |
| B: Normalized to [0–255] (byte) |
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I've updated the color codes based on these actual spectral measurements of genuine Vermillion pigment: http://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/huepurity.html The author is quite thourough, and his data can be trusted. I'll update a few other pigment pages with similar color codes. The color codes started with CIEL*a*b, and were converted to sRGB based on the 10 degree observer and D65 whitepoint assumptions, and are designed for a monitor gamma of 2.2. If you change the values, please have a source based on actual measurements. It would probably be appropriate to add a few additional colors as well, to indicate different hues of different types of vermillion (since it can vary so much from source to source), if anyone has some measurements of their own. Phidauex 20:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Mercurid iodide
Following paragraph was removed because it's not about vermilion:
Another red mercury pigment, mercuric iodide, briefly sold in the 19th century to artists as "Scarlet Lake" and "Iodide Scarlet" is more vivid than either vermilion or cadmium red, but it is very light sensitive and few artists used it. One who did was J. M. W. Turner, an artist infamous for his use of even the most fugitive paints. His response to criticism from a paint dealer was to point out that he was not the one who produced the paints.
[edit] Mercury compounds toxic
Is it really the case that all other mercury compounds are toxic? No inert compounds at all with mercury? Would it be more cautious to say "most" or "most common" instead of "all"?
67.169.127.166 (talk) 15:54, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
