User talk:Veni Markovski

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[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia!

it's a fun place to hang out.... --Alvestrand 04:19, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I know :) Veni 20:05, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Macedonian alphabet

Hey man, do you have a source for the addition you just made to Macedonian alphabet? I'd not read that before. - FrancisTyers · 15:13, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Veni 19:13, 11 August 2006 (UTC) :

Yes, I do. My Grandfather was one of the creators of the alphabet. Venko Markovski. He wrote it in a book, "Blood is thiker than water" (Kravta voda ne stava in Bulgarian). Here's the part from it (in Bulgarian) that describes it:

Президиумът на Народното събрание в Македония, съставен от членове, между които бяха Методи Андонов-Ченто, Павел Шатев, Панко Брашнаров и други, образува комисия, коя­то да представи в окончателен вид македонската азбука. В тая комисия влизах и аз. На заседанията на комисията аз се срещнах лице с лице с истината. Две тенденции, ясни, категорични, непримирими, воюваха. Битка се водеше около ер-голяма (ъ). Едната тенденция, застъпвана от хора със съмнително минало и неспециалисти, воюваше за сръбската азбука, като се изхвърли буквата ер-голям (ъ), а за съчетанията кь, гь, дз се измислят три съвсем нови букви. Тази тенденция се застъпваше от по-голямата част от комисията. Другата тенденция, застъпвана от хора литератори – учени и лингвисти, но с непоколебимо българско съзнание, воюваше за въвеждане на буквите ер-голям (ъ) и ер-малък (ь) и от­хвърли измислянето на двете нови букви, доказвайки, че ер-малъкът е способен да изпълнява тяхната функция, а за дз да се създаде буква, подобна на латинското S. Тази тенденция застъпвах и аз. След дълги остри спорове се взе компромисно решение. Въведе се ер-голямът (ъ). Отпадна ер-малъкът (ь). Измислиха се две съвсем нови букви. А за дз се прие буква, подобна на латинското S. Въвеждането на ер-голяма (ъ) беше победа. Но тази победа за мене същевременно беше първото поражение на моята заблуда. Македонската азбука с ер-голям (ъ) бе отхвърлена в ЦК на ЮКП от Александър Белич и Милован Джилас.

It says that the first commission implemented the so-called "R-goliama" (the leter Ъ), they've removed the "r-malak" (ь), they accepted the "s" for "dz", and they've created two new letters. But this alphabet was vetoed by Alexander Belic and Milovan Djilas in Belgrade.

[edit] Macedonian Alphabet revision

Hi Veni :) I have tried to redo the Macedonian alphabet entry, but before I post it I want to make sure it's not too controversial or wrong. I have tried to keep it very neutral and stick to the alphabet (and not get into the whole Macedonian v Bulgarian debate), but if you have any other information -- especially about the committees which formed the alphabet -- that would be great. I am not Macedonian/Bulgarian/Serbian, so any errors are made in good faith and/or ignorance!!

I'd be interested to get your comments about the new article, I have the draft at User:AWN2/sandbox.

Cheers, AWN AWN2 03:20, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi Veni, How is the updating coming along? I am going to try and post the article soon. Do you have any references for the bit about Milovan Đilas and Edvard Kardelj and them wanting a less Bulgarian-style alphabet? Cheers AWN AWN2 07:02, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Go ahead and publish it. Refer to my Grandfather about Djilas/Kardel. Veni 02:58, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

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