Talk:Vegas Grand Prix

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[edit] Page creation

Creatd this page as new page for Vegas AOW races. The Las Vegas Grand Prix page is more appropriately an F1 page, and since there is now a recreation of the event, which clearly appears to be simply "Vegas Grand Prix" (no "Las" in the title), this page can closely resemble how we resolved the Detroit GP pages. Page is still under construction. Doctorindy 19:52, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edits

Removed the references to races at Las Vegas Motor Speedway as they are not relevant to Grand Prix races held in downtown Las Vegas or on the Strip.

If someone wants to create a page for the History of OW racing in Las Vegas, that would be a better place.

Also, I believe this page and all pages relating to Champ Car Grand Prix races should be titled (place of race) Champ Car Grand Prix, i.e. Belgium Champ Car Grand Prix; Cleveland Champ Car Prix; because the name of the races each year will change depending on title sponsors. For example the page for the Grand Prix of Edmonton for this year is Rexall Grand Prix of Edmonton; 2006 was West Edmonton Mall Grand Prix. Links on most pages are set to look for West Edmonton but that page no longer exists.

Also, should remove the merge recommend banner as the two entities are entirely different.

surfaceunits boomer@indybooks.net 7/20/2007

  • So far, the way it has been handled, as far as race history between multiple sanctioning bodies in the Wiki AOWR, is that AAA/USAC/CART/IRL/CC races that are at the same facility, or same city, regardless of immediate "direct connection," are listed on the same page, same chart for simplicity. For example, the Tamiami Park CART races are listed in the same page as Homestead results..."Miami" being the connection. That decision was accepted last fall when many of the pages were created. While it's true that the IRL LVMS races are not directly linked to the current Vegas CC street race, it does share the city in common, and thus, it creates a connection with the overall history of OW racing in the Las Vegas area. The arguement that the races are not connected holds little worth vs., say, the Casear's Palace CART race, which is listed in the chart. Not the same track, nor the same promoters, and technically not even the same sanctioning body, but it still has "Las Vegas" as the connection. I think we should hold to our precident, and the IRL LVMS results should be shown here. I'll wait for a second. Doctorindy 14:36, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
    • Also, the merege tag needs to be done away with, but not before some work is done. The F1 race is totally seperate, and we need to figure out a way to split the two articles entirely. Doctorindy 14:36, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
Latest thinking at WP:F1 (as discussed on Talk:Las Vegas Grand Prix) is that Las Vegas Grand Prix should be renamed as Caesars Palace Grand Prix and restricted to covering just the 2 F1 races and 2 CART races held at Caesars Palace from 1981-1984. DH85868993 15:57, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Results Chart from LVGP page

The CanAm races 1966-68 were held at the old Stardust Raceway and was officially called the Stardust Grand Prix.
The Formula One races in 1981 and 1982 were officially called the Las Vegas Grand Prix.
The CART Indycar races 1983-84 were officially called Caesar's Palace Grand Prix.
The IMSA/ALMS races between 1997-2000 were officially called the Grand Prix of Las Vegas.

Year Driver Constructor Location Report
2005 Flag of France Sébastien Bourdais Lola-Ford Cosworth Las Vegas Motor Speedway Report
2004 Flag of France Sébastien Bourdais Lola-Ford Cosworth Las Vegas Motor Speedway Report
2000 Flag of Italy Emanuele Pirro
Flag of Germany Frank Biela
Audi Las Vegas Report
1999 Flag of Finland Jyrki Järvilehto,
Flag of the United Kingdom Steve Soper
BMW Las Vegas Report
1998 Flag of South Africa Wayne Taylor
Flag of Belgium Eric van de Poele
Ferrari Las Vegas Report
1997 Flag of the United States John Paul, Jr.,
Flag of the United States Butch Leitzinger
Riley & Scott-Ford Las Vegas Report
1984 Flag of the United States Tom Sneva March-Ford Caesar's Palace - Las Vegas Report
1983 Flag of the United States Mario Andretti Lola-Ford Caesar's Palace - Las Vegas Report
1982 Flag of Italy Michele Alboreto Tyrrell-Ford Caesar's Palace - Las Vegas Report
1981 Flag of Australia Alan Jones Williams-Ford Caesar's Palace - Las Vegas Report
1968 Flag of New Zealand Denny Hulme McLaren-Chevrolet Stardust Raceway - Las Vegas Report
1967 Flag of the United Kingdom John Surtees Lola-Chevrolet Stardust Raceway - Las Vegas Report
1966 Flag of the United Kingdom John Surtees Lola-Chevrolet Stardust Raceway - Las Vegas Report


[edit] Temporary Archive

Archived for the time being the IRL results at LVMS. Until they are replaced somewhere else, or back on this page, this chart should be placed here so the information (and the work put into it) is not lost. Doctorindy 14:28, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

IRL Indycar Series history (Las Vegas Motor Speedway)
1996 September 15 Las Vegas 500K Flag of the United States Richie Hearn Reynard Ford-Cosworth
1997 October 11 Las Vegas 500K Flag of Chile Eliseo Salazar Dallara Oldsmobile
1998 October 11 Las Vegas 500K Flag of the Netherlands Arie Luyendyk G-Force Oldsmobile
1999 September 25 Vegas.com 500 Flag of the United States Sam Schmidt G-Force Oldsmobile
2000 March 22 Vegas Indy 300 Flag of the United States Al Unser, Jr. G-Force Oldsmobile