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Something that would be nice in this article is where the Archives are located in Vatican City. Does anyone know? I briefly searched on Google but didn't turn up anything. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aindreas (talk • contribs) 00:54, July 7, 2005

i believe they are located very near the papal apartments —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.63.15.43 (talk) 00:00, October 25, 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] New See Also section

Having read the two articles recenlty added as a see also section, I fail to see the relevance either has on readers of this article. Gentgeen 03:09, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

For now, I've deleted the See Also section and instead, I've have incorporated the links to Carlo Ginzburg and the Inquisition into the External links section. This should clarify their relationship to the article. Delta x 04:20, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] First line, third paragraph

Behind its entrance through the Porta S. Anna in via di Porta Angelica, this is the nearest thing the real world offers to the library in Umberto Eco's The Name of the Rose.

I just wanted to note that I was using this to research a story, and this line makes no sense to either myself or the friend I ran it by. Could someone clarify this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.201.26.128 (talk) 20:10, April 24, 2006 (UTC)

The Jewish Conspiracy section is rather hyperbolic. The Vatican can dispel the "conspiracy theory" by granting access to its entire storehouse of artifacts. Some color should be put on why the theory has teeth - part of it is due to the fact that the Menorah and other ritual items were brought to Rome in 70 CE as memorialized by Josephus and the Arch of Titus. Typically, this type of plunder wasn't melted down to make coins, but was kept as evidence of victory. As successor to the Roman Empire, the Catholic Church became the custodian of many pre-Church items. Most likely, the Menorah, et al. were melted down, but this post doesn't explain that the Church archives contain many items plundered from Jews and other civilizations by the Crusaders and the Inquisition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.217.249.42 (talk) 01:54, April 17, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] POV

Reading the article it bothered me that some passages, particularly in the jewish conspiracy theories section, showed a clear point of view, and at the very least lacked sources. A quick look at the history showed they were recent additions by 192.217.249.42. I don't know particularly much about the subject, but I suggest that an editor involved with the page take a look at this. AoS1014 20:15, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category: Secrecy

Should this article really be a part of the Secrecy category? Like, the name of the archives is more properly translated as "Private Archives," not "Secret Archives." Plus, most of the archives are open to anyone who has a pass, which is essentially a library card. There really isn't much that's secret about the archives. True, there are sections from some pontificates which can't be released until enough time has passed, but any institution has these time-release documents, and the Vatican's policy is comparatively pretty lenient. There just doesn't seem to be anything that's really "secret." I propose that it be removed from the Category. Just my two cents. Anyone have thoughts about this? Any opinions are welcome, even if they don't agree with mine. J.J. Bustamante 10:52, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Even their own website is called "Vatican Secret Archives" [1] I reckon that is authority enough.User:carfax6 24 October 2007 —Preceding comment was added at 12:15, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jaime Bleda

In the section "Extent", I found this sentence: "Since that time, the documentation includes items such as Henry VIII of England's request for a marriage annulment, and letters from Michelangelo, or files on Jaime Bleda." Since the last of those redlinks, I wondered who this person was and why they were in that list. A little investigation indicates that Bleda came about a century after the later of the two others (thus not making much of a point about how far back the documents go), is not particularly notable (hence a redlink instead of an article) and was added as the sole edit of anon 4.250.24.67 (talk · contribs) with the highly POV descriptor "Catholic precursor of Adolf Eichmann." Accordingly I'm cutting it. -- 65.78.13.238 (talk) 01:14, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Archives Online?

Does anyone think it might be of interest to note that the archives have a website? Here is the link: http://asv.vatican.va/home_en.htm Sephiroth storm (talk) 06:08, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. It's at the top of External links. --Wetman (talk) 06:17, 25 May 2008 (UTC)