Talk:Valéry Giscard d'Estaing

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This article has a major gap. It does not mention anything from his education until he was elected president. Academic Challenger 03:06, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)

  • I do not like him.
  • I like him
  • How is he a nobleman? - unsigned.

He's not a nobleman. If you are asking why his surname is Giscard d'Estaing rather than Giscard: His father Edmond Giscard (and his uncle René) had their surname changed, by decree of 17 June 1922, from “Giscard” to “Giscard d’Estaing”. “D’Estaing” was an ancestral line that had become extinct on the revolutionary scaffold in 1794 in the person of admiral Jean-Baptiste d’Estaing, hero of the American War of Independence. (His last words were “Sell my head to the English, they’ll pay a good price for it”.). - Nunh-huh 09:24, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Hello ! The name Giscard d'Estaing is not nobility. Look : [[1]] IP 164 02/08/05
    • He's nobleman but not aristocrat

May 15 2008: This discussion is absurd, since there is no clear definition of what it is to be noble or to be aristocrat - today. However it is clear, that Giscard is not a d'Estaing from the point of view of pre-revolutionary nobleness, since the title and the properties and so on were transferred only to the male descendants. If one, however applies the democratic right to take your mothers name, then we are all nobles or - rather - we could all be noble if we searched far enough in our past. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.50.196.39 (talk) 14:49, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


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[edit] Why no Presidential run in 1995?

Years ago before the 1995 presidential election I heard on the news that Giscard was seriously considering to run for the presidency again in 1995. Yet Giscard ended up not being a candidate at that election at all. So what made him decide not to run in 1995.--The Shadow Treasurer 03:54, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Probably that it would have cost a lot money to loose... Ericd 21:29, 19 February 2006 (UTC)


He was not candidate in 1995 because the most part of the UDF politicians supported Edouard Balladur. This one was a popular Prime Minister and, even if he came from the RPR, the majority of his ministers were UDF elects. At this moment, the UDF was not a party but a confederation of parties. The two main components were the Christian Democratic CDS and the Liberal Conservative PR. The CDS leader, François Bayrou, was Education Minister of Balladur and the PR leader, François Léotard was the Defense Minister of Balladur. Without troop behind him he could not win and he did not want another presidential defeat (after his 1981 crash). He took revenge on Balladur in supporting his old ennemy, Jacques Chirac.

N.a french 08:46, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] En Français

Le problème avec Giscard c'est pas sa politique... C'est Giscard... Il a toujours pris les Français pour des cons... Sans jamais les prendre à rebrousse-poil et sans jamais nous prouver qu'il était plus malin que la moyenne. J'ai des arguments si vous voulez en discuter. Ericd 21:38, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Obviously he was not entirely wrong.Hektor 18:20, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Les pages de discutions, c'est pas un forum pour que tu ramenes tes idées politiques, mais pour trouver des moyens d'améliorer l'article.
(the talk pages are not a forum for displaying your political views, but rather for finding ways to improve the articles themselves)
FiP 23:20, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

For Hektor... He was not entirely wrong... That's the problem... Ericd 22:30, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

For FiP, enfin bref pour Fip. Je me suis relu et je ramème rien du tout, et surtout pas une idée politique. La page de discussion c'est pour discuter, donc c'est un espace de libre expression. J'ai déployè assez d'énergie à défendre la politique de neutralité de Wikipédia pour de temps en temps me sentir autorisé à inviter une communauté minoritaire de Wikipédia à faire la synthèse de son point de vue. Et je ne recule pas devant la provocation pour ça. Ceci dit, si tu me relis ma contribution est embrouillée au possible et contient une invitation à discuter. Face à Giscard, bin je suis enbarassé... Ericd 22:47, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation

Could someone who knows French please add an IPA pronunciation of this name? --Grouse 13:01, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I second that notion. 12.149.39.84 12:14, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Punctuation and grammar

However, the economic downturn that followed the 1973 energy crisis, marking the end of the "thirty glorious years" after World War II, combined the official discourse that the "end the tunnel was near", while the presidency was facing opposition on both sides with the unification of the left by François Mitterrand and the rise of up-and-comer Jacques Chirac who resurrected Gaullism on a right-wing opposition line, and bad public relations caused his unpopularity to grow at the end of his term, and he failed to secure re-election in 1981.

That has to be one of the longest sentences I have ever read... It's unacceptably POV (at least without sources), too. DWaterson 23:26, 26 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Farewell of VGE to the nation in may 1981

I added a link of national TV archiv institute (INA) about his farewell to the nation. Even if this declaration is considered as pathetical (or as a bit ridiculous), it shows that VGE was sure to come back and wanted to watch to the french the hole his departure will provoke. It reveals a part of his personality.

  • Before considering him as a lunatic, please keep in mind that at that time a lot of people, including current president Jacques Chirac, thought that what they called the Socialist experience would be short lived. Hektor 10:41, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Arms

Picture and blazon should be included if uncopyrighted image can be found or produced. --Daniel C. Boyer 18:49, 6 February 2007 (UTC)