Talk:Utba ibn Rabi'ah

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[edit] cleanup

Missing wikipedic form. --tickle me 01:51, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notability of the quote

So this is paragraph 2659 of book 14 of Sunan Abu-Dawud. I'm assuming there are a number of books (21?) with quite a number of paragraphs, and multiply that by the number of collections other than Sunan Abu-Dawud... The quoted web page goes from paragraph 2473 to 2781 (didn't check if they are all consecutive), so this is just one from the middle.

So why is this one the most important fact about this person? Can it be narrated so that it means something to the non-initiated reader? As it is now its information content is pretty much zero unless you have to have a lot of contextual knowledge and are able to decipher the nuances of Islamic religious texts. Can this be made into an encyclopedia article instead of a collection of Islamic texts? (Per "not an indiscriminant collection of information"). It tells nothing to the western reader, and Islamic readers surely have more complete sources, in the original language, in a much better format than a random web of hyperlinks where even happening to stumble on this article is a random process. Weregerbil 18:08, 21 March 2006 (UTC)