Talk:USCGC Ingham (WHEC-35)

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[edit] Citation Needed

The citation needed was in one of the external links. Once it became a reference, does it still belong in external links?Lvklock (talk) 08:54, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

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Is there any desire for 'stories' from people that were stationed on her? Like the night she was rammed by a drug running 75' shimp boat, in the wee morning hours of the 4th of july in 1979, when she had to unload a full can of 50 cal rounds into the eng room to get her stopped?

The vessel was the F/V Mary Ann and she had 15 tons of MJ on her and was escorted to San Juan.

I was there :)

ferg.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.43.229.134 (talk) 16:15, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Ferg, neat, thanks for sharing! I believe you and would love to add the anecdote. Officially, however, wikipedia articles are not supposed to include any "original research", meaning anything not verifiable in publications that can be given as references. Is there any account of your story in writing anywhere? I am suspecting not yet. If we/you could find some veterans' or sailors' website or somewhere that could "publish" / include the story, then this article could mention it and provide a link over to it. It would be great also if you have any pics. Original pics we can use and include, there is not such strict policy about use of "original research" when they are in picture form.

Here's a pic of the Ingham at "Michael's Musings" blog site and an example brief story of Michael, apparently a former sailor. It would be a bit unconventional to use a blog site as a source for a wikipedia article, but I personally think it could be okay, depending on the blog site and what's said in the story. Here's another pic, better than any we have in the article. doncram (talk) 20:08, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Note we can't use those pics though, because they are not in public domain or otherwise released by their copyright owners to be usable in wikipedia. If you have pics that you own, they could be uploaded (to wikimedia Commons actually) and used in the article. doncram (talk) 21:50, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Can you tell us more? I'd love to hear more. Cheers, doncram (talk) 19:55, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey Doncram -

Here is a link - long towards the bottom of the page is the reference to the shooting and MJ bust I spoke of - http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBCUTTERS/Ingham_WPG_35.html

The 'crew' that did the boarding was myself - first on board - the Chief Gunners Mate and Junior officer - was a LONG night - and in the rough seas - the JO got washed down the side of the vessel and broke his let and had to be medivaced from the ship my CG helo the next day.

wow to be young again :0) Hope the link helps - I can elaborate on the story with much more details of you think the link is good enough to use as documentation???

Thanks

ferg....

Great, thanks for following up! :) That reference is absolutely fine, much better than lower-quality blog websites that i was willing to consider (but others might have contested), and definitely the incident can be mentioned in the article using that reference. In fact, with that reference supporting the basic fact of the incident, it would then be a lot easier to justify including a more personal account from some blog-type website. I'll try to start with adding basic mention of the incident, can't now but will try sometime later today or tomorrow.

I would love to receive your more full telling of the story. Could you perhaps write it out, and send it by email to me? There is a red "email-me" link at my userpage User:Doncram. I would be happy to correspond. And/or you could write it here. doncram (talk) 21:50, 17 April 2008 (UTC)