Talk:Up the Bracket

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Is anyone else here sceptical about the use of 'Garage Rock Revival' to describe the genre that Up the Bracket fits into? Yeah, I know that Garage Rock Revival bands were popular at the time and so were the Libertines, but nothing on the record has much in common with the White Stripes et al.

I think the name is almost exclusively alluding to cocaine use. I'm deleting the bit about "up the bracket" meaning a punch in the throat because the refence to punching is covered by the Hancock allusion. Does anyone have a different opinion or even a source from a slang dictionary? If it is really a widely used phrase meaning a punch in the throat, then it's not really an allusion to Hancock, is it? And if Hancock is known for that distinctive phrase, than it can't have been that widely used, otherwise. OneVeryBadMan 00:32, 28 March 2006 (UTC)


It's not nesscerily a source for the album name, but on one of the recordings of Seven Deadly Frenchmen(an early b-side) there is a Hancock episode playing which includes this phrase. I can't say it's a phrase I've heard in any other context. It's probably a phrase that was rather obscure in the fifties and now pretty much unused. So it's probably fair to say it's a Hancock allusion, especially since Peter Doherty is known as a fan of Hancock. Also states it is an allusion to the Hancock phrase in a BBC article about The Unknowen Hancock interview. Should be fairly relible as they had him in for an interview on the documentry. I'd say it's at least fair to give both equal weight in the article.

Robert Christgau actually gave this album a score of A rather than an A- if you'd actually care to check the link you provided for it. I've changed this twice and both times it has been reverted back for some reason! Rather insulting actually.

Regarding the title 'up The Bracket', why don't you actually bother to listen to some Hancock shows? If you did you might actually hear them mention the exact phrase...

[edit] The Boy Looked At Johnny

  • This song is clearly about a condom and not Johnny Borrell. -- Crazyknight (talk) 08:38, 29 May 2008 (UTC)