Talk:Unknown Hinson

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[edit] Deletion

I think this guy satisfies WP:N based on the fact he's the lead voice in an Adult Swim series that's been on three seasons. At the very least, this needs to go through a proper AfD instead of just a template proposal. Torc2 09:07, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

notable for several reasons. this article just needs some love. Ky Music Nerd 05:53, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

"Daniel baker" the actor is the voice on Adult Swim, not Unknown Hinson, who is a totally separate character. Perhaps the article should be renamed to be about the actor, not one of his bands/characters, which seems to have no musical notability, no hit songs, no historical significance, etc??? this seems to be: a vanity page for an internet/concert persona....HOw about re-name the article?

The person is known primarily by the character, who definitely satisfies WP:N. He's gone on at least one national tour and has two albums on Capitol--either of these alone satisfies WP:MUSIC.

It's also not fair to say that the character and person are totally separate, especially in the case of Squidbillies. Unknown's web page states: "Unknown is also gaining notoriety (and fans) as the voice of lead character 'Early Cuyler' in the popular new show from Cartoon Network 'The Squidbillies'" although the show credits Stuart Daniel Baker; so the line between the character and the person is razor thin, and arguably doesn't exist. Interviews with 'Unknown' certainly read like Early Cuyler's dialog. I'm also really not seeing how this article reads like an ad. Torc2 08:59, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Many artists on wikipedia are listed under their stage names. "see Eazy-E, Tiny Tim (musician)". also, imdb.com lists "unknown hinson" as a cast member in the squidbillies and tv.com lists danny "unknown hinson" baker. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ky Music Nerd (talk • contribs) 15:59, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

But, Isnt the subject more well known as Danny B. Harvey? As Danny B. Harvey, he has been in more bands, done more solo work (including work with Bow Wow Wow, the Rockats, and Lemmy see: http://www.amazon.com/Lemmy-Slim-Jim-Danny-B/dp/B00004RJ2U , and has been working for longer under that name. So, Perhaps, The article should include all the characters and be renamed to give the artist full credit for all of his related works. I was simply stating that Hinson seems to be lesser established than the Actor / musician himself...its not that it reads like an ad, but that it only highlights one character over a long career, which sets a "vanity" type precedent. It would be ridiculous to begin to have articles for every character every actor has ever played.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.149.54.217 (talk) 18:15, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

??? i coundn't find any obvious connection. i did a google search and the only thing i saw was that the two have shared the bill at a few concerts. i cross referenced their concert schedules on their myspace pages, looks like they're scheduled to play at the same time in totaly diferent places. (unknown hinson - november 8 - orlando, FL) (danny b harvey - november 8 - copenhagen) ofcourse myspace probably isn't the best source. can anyone provide a reference or source that would confirm that stuart baker and danny b harvey are the same person?

on a side note, danny b harvey is certainly notable and should have a wikipedia article. also, unknown hinson, if he is danny b harvey, is still notible in "his" own right, releasing two major label albums, tourng nationally, and being the subject of multiple published articles. there are many artists on wiki that have seperate articles for their various projects. Ky Music Nerd 23:31, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

(Stuart) Daniel B(aker) Harvey--Is there any source who said "they" were not the same person?--They use the same guitars, wear the same black ribbon tie, play guitar exactly the same way, even reusing Danny B riffs in Hinson songs & solos. They played on the same bill, are both are promoted by Coffin Case, are both best friends and close business associates of Lynda Kay Parker (aka Mora Devoura of CoffinCase), yet have never once been photographed together. Look at any photos and you can clearly realize they are one guy putting on makeup & dye-rinsing his hair for a character costume. Hinson is simply Harvey's "Coffin Case band" stage alter-ego, just as Lynda Kay Parker's alter ego is Mora Devoura. That's kind of why I thought it wasn't really notable, because it appeared to me that Hinson was just a joke side project for the real artist Danny Harvey.

The gigs of which you speak were on the same date, in different time zones, but, using a modern airplane an artist can easily play a show early in Copenhagen, and also a later one in Florida, flying "backwards in time", into an earlier time zone. I have seen many artists have multiple shows on one date. Plus, myspace gig listings are hardly a way to determine someone's identity. I was under the belief this was common knowledge, but apparently, it isnt, so perhaps this should be ironed out before creating a Danny B Harvey article? Is there a way to verify stage names & their respective identities?

--67.149.54.217 22:25, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

"(Stuart) Daniel B(aker) Harvey--Is there any source who said "they" were not the same person?" There's no source that says Marilyn Manson and Martha Stewart aren't the same person, but that doesn't mean we can assume they are. Torc2 02:03, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

as i mentioned before about the myspace pages, i don't concider that a good source. i used that example simply to raise a question. not to prove a point. my question was "can anyone provide a reference or source that would confirm that stuart baker and danny b harvey are the same person?". anyway, realizing that myspace doesen't prove anything i looked into more reliable sources. i checked the databasses of the major publishing rights organizations and found danny b harvey is registered with ASCAP as daniel bryan harvey under the publishing name "danny b. harvey music". unknown hinson/stuart daniel baker is registered with SESAC as stuart daniel baker under the publishing name "s d b music". publishing rights in the u.s. are always registered under the legal name and social security number of the writer and a single writer cannot be registered under two publishing names with two publishing rights organizations. "check it out for yourself"

may i also mention that discussion pages are not a forum for speculation. unless you have reliable sources that prove that the two people in question are the same, and would add to the accuracy and quality of this article, this discussion should stop here.Ky Music Nerd 05:12, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

There ARE pictures of Danny Baker OUT of the "Hinson" makeup online... and he is clearly a DIFFERENT PERSON ENTIRELY from Harvey. I mean, just look at em, it's obvious. 66.56.204.246 (talk) 07:54, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

If you go to Danny B. Harveys myspace page, click on his pics, look at the With Friends album. There is a pic of Danny, Lynda K & Unknown Hinson...all 3 together —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.183.96.99 (talk) 03:01, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

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