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[edit] Popular Vote Difference

The article suggest Garfield won by less than 2,000 votes, but the map says it was more like 9,000.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.19.101.114 (talk) 06:51, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Electoral map

Explain the little bit of blue at the bottom of California, please.

Syd1435 05:47, 2004 Nov 8 (UTC)

5 California electors cast votes for the Democratic; one cast a vote for the Republican Garfield. -- Decumanus 05:51, 2004 Nov 8 (UTC)

[edit] Electoral picture peculiarity

Why is the graphic depiction of electoral votes skewed? Rarely nowadays does one see democratic votes colored red and and republican votes blue. --maru (talk) Contribs 20:51, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

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— DLJessup (talk) 21:37, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Georgia vote

What is the source for Georgia not voting until 11/8/1880? The New York Times ran an article on 11/6/1880 with this headline: "GEORGIA'S BOURBON SOLIDITY.; THE DEMOCRATS GIVE HANCOCK ABOUT 35,000, BUT ARE BADLY SHAKEN UP." Chronicler3 02:57, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

The source is the National Archives. That datum was actually in the very first version of this page, which was essentially copy-and-pasted from the National Archives, and has survived ever since.
The confusion arises because they're not talking about the popular vote, but the electoral vote. Under the Constitution, electors are all supposed to cast their ballots on the same day, and, at the time, Congress had set that date to be the first Wednesday in December. There is a very strong argument that Georgia's electoral votes were constitutionally invalid and should not be included in the result.
— DLJessup (talk) 16:01, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Response. Interesting. In 1856, the Electors in Wisconsin were not able to meet on the appointed date due to a heavy snow, and they did not meet until the next day. The National Archives page does not mention the 1856 incident but mentions a similar incident in 1880. Chronicler3 22:41, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

My suspicion is that the Wisconsin electoral vote wasn't disputed in Congress in 1856, while the Georgia electoral vote in 1880 was so questioned. There are probably a few reasons for this:
  • The Wisconsin voters in 1856 were clearly working in good faith: they had attempted to meet on the appointed day, and, when they couldn't, they met as soon as they could. The Georgia voters, on the other hand, met a week late.
  • In 1880, the Civil War was still only fifteen years past, and Georgia was an ex-Confederate state in a Congress run by the Republicans. There would have been strong suspicion that Georgia had been up to some shenanigans.
— DLJessup (talk) 15:13, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hancock

Hancock was not ridiculed as disloyal. In fact, the Republicans tended to avoid direct attacks on the general, focusing instead on his cronies.--Idols of Mud 21:21, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anti-Masons in 1880

The anti-masonic movement of the late nineteenth century re-entered politics before 1880. The first national convention of this second wave of Anti-Masons assembled in the Second Congregational Church building in Oberlin OH in 5/22-23/1872 and nominated Charles F. Adams for President. He declined to run, and no replacement nominee was chosen. In 1876, the party held its second national convention in Liberty Hall, Pittsburgh, from 6/8-10/1876, where they nominated James B. Walker for President. Walker received 459 votes in the election. Phelps was nominated in 1880, but I have not been seen any information on where the national convention was held. The 1884 ticket of the party dropped out of the race, and the 1888 ticket was the last one offered by the party. Sources: James T. Havel, US Presidential Candidates and the Elections; Ohio Elects the President; CQ's Presidential Elections Since 1789. Chronicler3 16:14, 27 July 2006 (UTC)