Talk:United States presidential election, 1832

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[edit] Popular vote figures

AmericanPresident.org gives the PV figures as follows:

  • Jackson, 687,502
  • Clay, 530,189
  • Floyd and Wirt (combined), 33,108

Meanwhile, answers.com gives the PV figures as follows:

  • Jackson, 688,242
  • Clay, 473,462
  • Wirt, 101,051

Now, according to Wilkes University, the PV figures just for Pennsylvania are:

  • Jackson, 90,971
  • Wirt, 66,706

Given the detail in the Wilkes University page, I'm tempted to believe that the American President site is way off, just on the basis that it gives a total figure for Wirt that's less than the Wilkes U figure for Pennsylvania alone.

Nonetheless, you can see why I might be getting a little squeamish about the PV figures in the article. I'll report back when I've done more research. — DLJessup 00:00, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Further examination of the Wilkes University page reveals that the figures for Wirt are for Electors on the Union slate, which are committed to both Wirt and Clay. This reveals a problem endemic to PV figures of the era: oftentimes voters were voting for Electors, rather than candidates, and sometimes its hard to assign voters for a particular slate to one or another candidate. — DLJessup 00:18, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Interestingly, Dave Leip's Atlas of U.S. Presidential Elections gives the exact vote count for Pennsylvania as Wilkes University, although it assigns the entire Union count to Wirt. Now then, due to the detail and the sourcing on the Wilkes University page, I have higher confidence for its figures than for the others; I also have a lot of respect for Leip's numbers. Therefore, since they match on Pennsylvania, I'm going to put the Leip figures in for PV on the article page unless somebody can point me to a better source. — DLJessup 23:12, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Recent edits

I very much appreciate Rjensen's recent edits. Chronicler3 01:29, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Ditto. Even though I disagree with some of his edits, most of his edits are very helpful, either reducing POV or adding in new information.
— DLJessup (talk) 14:38, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Additional information

I wonder if we could embellish the narrative on this election. There were at least three very important developments in this race.

1. It was the first presidential election in which the national ticket was nominated in conventions. The Anti-Masonic, National Republican, and Democratic Parties held national conventions.

2. One of the major issues was nullification (the idea that states could 'nullify' or veto congressional legislation). Calhoun refused to run with Jackson for this reason, and South Carolina entered a brief anti-Democratic phase. Calhoun resigned as VP, the first person to do that, and became an anti-administration U.S. Senator.

3. Another major issue was the National Bank. Clay forced a vote on extending the charter of the Bank in the summer of 1832. Jackson vetoed it. Clay felt that the Bank would be critical to economic development. Jackson did not have a specific policy - Van Buren later created the independent treasury system which laid the groundwork for the banking system which is still in place. Chronicler3

you should add points 1 and 3. skip 2 because it only affeced one politician, Calhoun. Rjensen 00:55, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Henry Lee

It appears that the Henry Lee referenced here as a VP candidate is linked to the wrong person. Robert E. Lee's father was long dead by the time of the 1832 election. Sorry that I do not know who this Henry Lee of Massachusetts was. Chronicler3

Here he is.[http://www.famousamericans.net/henrylee1/] Unfortunately it's copyrighted, and I don't know all the contigent guidelines about using the information. 24.125.168.51 17:14, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Whig Party

Might want to either expand formation of Whig party or else leave out of article. Currently the Campaign section references the Whig party, but they aren't explained elsewhere on the page

I changed the reference to the Whig Party. The first candidates to run with the "Whig Party" label were in early 1834. Chronicler3 23:40, 13 November 2006 (UTC)