Talk:United States Navy Fighter Weapons School

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was don't move. —Nightst a llion (?) 11:21, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

1 Rename
2 F-21
3 F-5
4 Topgun patch
5 VF-121 Pacemakers
6 USAF Fighter Weapons School beginnings?

[edit] Rename

This needs to be "Top Gun". The name is not an acronym. Update: I can accept United States Navy Fighter Weapons School if that's it's official name. However, please note US Navy usage of "Top Gun": 162 "Top Gun" vs 43 "Topgun" or "TOPGUN". Also, it is well-established publishing practice not to capitalize things that are not acronymns or initialisms, regardless of the namer's preference. --Tysto 23:20, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

OPPOSE — the shorthand U.S. Navy notation for the Naval Fighter Weapons School at NAS Miramar, Calif. was/is "TOPGUN." If a move is necessary, it would be from TOPGUN to United States Navy Fighter Weapons School. Mustang dvs 19:11, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Oppose - if it needs to be renamed should be to something like Top Gun (fighter weapons school) or to its full name United States Navy Fighter Weapons School. that way Top Gun can remain as a disambiguation page.

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

[edit] F-21

TOPGUN never operated the F-21. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.65.24.33 (talk • contribs)

[edit] F-5

There's still F-5s operating out of NAS Fallon - here's a picture of one from summer 2005 - [1]. I would presume those F-5s are used for TOPGUN instruction, although the article implies that only F-16s and F-18s are in use. 170.130.6.10 21:38, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

That's because those F-5s are operated by VFC-13. Hence the "VFC-13" on the aircraft's spine. This is a reserve adversary squadron based at NAS Fallon. TOPGUN flies only the F-16A/B and F/A-18A/B.

[edit] Topgun patch

Using the patch from the movie seems out of place as lead image. Why not use real patch and relegate the movie patch to popular culture/movie reference?HJ 01:57, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] VF-121 Pacemakers

TOPGUN did not start off as VF-121 as the article states, rather it was part of it. VF-121 was the F-4 Phantom RAG unit for the U.S. Navy's Pacific Fleet, and existed well before TOPGUN came into fruition. Am amending the article to reflect this. Wikiphyte 15:27, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] USAF Fighter Weapons School beginnings?

This article is incorrect when it states that the USAF Fighter Weapons School was established as a result of the success of TOPGUN during Vietnam. The USAF Fighter Weapons School was established as such in 1954, thereby predating TOPGUN by several years.Double493 15:01, 12 September 2007 (UTC)